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HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 9:28 am
by TimothyC
I'm just doing a
link to the article because getting the formatting exactly correct would be a pain and a half.
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 11:17 am
by Colombamike
- Hmmm, the forward gun look disproportionate for a 5"/62 on a LPD 17 hull (
except if the american make a return to the 1970's era 8"/55 Mk 71 
)
- The phased array radar is probably the larger version of the AMDR (20 or 20 feet diameter ?)
- I look one bofor 57mm/70 Mk 3 aft the after funnel/uptake
- I count 2 CIWS RAM (one atop the forward bridge, one aft the after funnel/uptake)
- I count 2 allay of VLS launchers ( 2 x 9 groups of 16 VLS each, for a grand total of...288
VLS) =>
Dangerous to put too many VLS on one ship, Dangerous to "put all your eggs in one basket"
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 11:20 am
by acelanceloet
Colombamike, maybe you should read the article as well? all you said, and more, is mentioned there.
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 4:09 pm
by Cybermax
Thanks for sharing this! Was wondering what the BMD version of LPD17 would look like. And an added bonus a model of one of the OPC candidates!
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 5:35 pm
by TimothyC
Colombamike wrote:- Hmmm, the forward gun look disproportionate for a 5"/62 on a LPD 17 hull (
except if the american make a return to the 1970's era 8"/55 Mk 71 )
It's a rail gun, but that's noted in the text.
Colombamike wrote:- The phased array radar is probably the larger version of the AMDR (20 or 20 feet diameter ?)
21 foot S-Band faces, again noted in the text.
Colombamike wrote:- I look one bofor 57mm/70 Mk 3 aft the after funnel/uptake
Yes, for close in work, also noted in the text.
Colombamike wrote:- I count 2 CIWS RAM (one atop the forward bridge, one aft the after funnel/uptake)
Yes, two Mk 49 launchers. Noted in the text.
Colombamike wrote:- I count 2 allay of VLS launchers ( 2 x 9 groups of 16 VLS each, for a grand total of...288
VLS) =>
Dangerous to put too many VLS on one ship, Dangerous to "put all your eggs in one basket"
Sometimes it's nice to be able to sustain an engagement. This is a stupid critique, especially as the fleet continues to shrink.
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 7:55 pm
by Colombamike
TimothyC wrote:Colombamike wrote:- I count 2 allay of VLS launchers ( 2 x 9 groups of 16 VLS each, for a grand total of...288
VLS) =>
Dangerous to put too many VLS on one ship, Dangerous to "put all your eggs in one basket"
Sometimes it's nice to be able to sustain an engagement. This is a stupid critique, especially as the fleet continues to shrink.
Stupid, no, it's just a "
fondamental strategy" => "not put all your eggs in one basket".... (but apparently you can not understand)
Typically a American answer "I want a big gun, I want big arms, I have a big penis".
Especially with $ 16 trillion US debt (20 to 24 in 2020...), Installs 10% of all your VLS on a single ship....argh !!!
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 8:05 pm
by MihoshiK
Colombamike wrote:TimothyC wrote:Colombamike wrote:- I count 2 allay of VLS launchers ( 2 x 9 groups of 16 VLS each, for a grand total of...288
VLS) =>
Dangerous to put too many VLS on one ship, Dangerous to "put all your eggs in one basket"
Sometimes it's nice to be able to sustain an engagement. This is a stupid critique, especially as the fleet continues to shrink.
Stupid, no, it's just a "
fondamental strategy" => "not put all your eggs in one basket".... (but apparently you can not understand)
Typically a American answer "I want a big gun, I want big arms, I have a big penis".
Especially with $ 16 trillion US debt (20 to 24 in 2020...), Installs 10% of all your VLS on a single ship....argh !!!
Would you like to tone down the arrogance a bit, or would you like a vacation?
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 8:31 pm
by heuhen
I recommend that Cyprus as a vacation place.
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 8:43 pm
by klagldsf
Colombamike wrote:Stupid, no, it's just a "fondamental strategy" => "not put all your eggs in one basket".... (but apparently you can not understand)
On the contrary, not only would it mean having one ship being able to do the job of two (not much smaller) ships (and therefore have to spread less manpower around the fleet, which is the big issue), but it also means there won't be any question that it won't run dry before it can take full advantage of AEGIS.
Re: HII LPD-17 derived BMD platform
Posted: April 9th, 2013, 9:08 pm
by Colosseum
It's not really an American ship until the mess facilities are replaced with a McDonald's drive in.