Not much to say about the lack of detail other than the only drawings I could find for this ship are not at all detailed. I've added the drawing I worked off of. If anyone has any more information I would be grateful if you could either post it PM it to me or point me to the web page.
Not sure of the 40mm mount by the fore funnel. But I can't make out what the heck is there!
RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
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RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
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HMS Sophia
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Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
The 40mm mount by the fore funnel appears to be a director on a mount in the drawing.
Is that drawing from Grove's book?
Is that drawing from Grove's book?
Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
What a fine ship!
From the book drawing it does appear that the helo deck is a little larger than you've allowed, and I'm not sure about the change in deck level that you have by the midships 3inch mount.
From the book drawing it does appear that the helo deck is a little larger than you've allowed, and I'm not sure about the change in deck level that you have by the midships 3inch mount.
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Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
My copy shows no drop in the deck on the 3 inch, it's level all the way along.
Also, the deck is flat up until forwards of the forwards superstructure, then goes up sharply.
And yeah the helo deck is longer.
(I found my copy
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Also, the deck is flat up until forwards of the forwards superstructure, then goes up sharply.
And yeah the helo deck is longer.
(I found my copy
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OK
can you please let me know which book by Grove we are talking about. As I said could anyone please let me know if they had better drawings and if so where.
So stop criticising and start posting!!!!
Re the 40mm mount, was wondering but wasn't sure as that would make 5 MRS 3 directors not the 4 listed.
can you please let me know which book by Grove we are talking about. As I said could anyone please let me know if they had better drawings and if so where.
So stop criticising and start posting!!!!
Re the 40mm mount, was wondering but wasn't sure as that would make 5 MRS 3 directors not the 4 listed.
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Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
The picture comes from Vanguard to Trident by Eric Grove. I have no scanner I'm afraid, but I have the book 
And we're only criticising to make the drawing better
And we're only criticising to make the drawing better
Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
Barnest2. Perfect answer to the question about what book. Now I know, I can get it and see what you see.barnest2 wrote:The picture comes from Vanguard to Trident by Eric Grove. I have no scanner I'm afraid, but I have the book
And we're only criticising to make the drawing better
Thank you. If you enlarge the picture I have to the scale required you see it gets V fuzzy around the areas you pointed out.
Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
Well Meeware and Barnest2
Have taken on your comments from your posts, will leave the 40mm mount until I can get a good picture of the area so I can figure out what is there.
Have taken on your comments from your posts, will leave the 40mm mount until I can get a good picture of the area so I can figure out what is there.
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Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
It is certainly a fire-Control to that twin 3" mark 6 DP gun
for what I see is a Fire-control and ventilation opening right behind it.
for what I see is a Fire-control and ventilation opening right behind it.
Re: RN 1950's proposed cruiser GW96A
Sorry if the comments weren't helpful. I don't have the book, but have read it before and remember this as being a very exciting vessel (and part inspiration for my commando cruiser efforts), and all I'm doing is contributing my intepretation of Groves style of diagram.
However, may I ask what the Shipbucket policy is on such Never Builts? Is the intention to capture most closely the essence of any published diagram, or to interpret any and all sources in order to produce as realistic as possible a representation of what such a vessel would have been like had it entered service?
However, may I ask what the Shipbucket policy is on such Never Builts? Is the intention to capture most closely the essence of any published diagram, or to interpret any and all sources in order to produce as realistic as possible a representation of what such a vessel would have been like had it entered service?