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M-frigate development
Posted: May 11th, 2011, 6:31 pm
by acelanceloet
background story coming later, I have to translate it.
this was the first concept of the M-frigate. this one is the earliest, the N (north sea) frigate.
comments?
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 11th, 2011, 6:38 pm
by ALVAMA
Great Work!
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 11th, 2011, 7:26 pm
by Novice
Nice one, but I find it hard to believe the Dutch navy would use that gun. At that time the gun would have been 76mm Oto-Melara Compact.
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 11th, 2011, 7:29 pm
by acelanceloet
well, this ship is designed as an 'north sea' frigate, for which the 76 would be too heavy or something..... I agree with you, and if this was an own design, I would stick an 76 on it. the references proved me wrong though, so I put the 57 on.
that said, it is also hard to believe they proposed an single prop design to the dutch navy
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 11th, 2011, 7:43 pm
by ALVAMA
Novice wrote:Nice one, but I find it hard to believe the Dutch navy would use that gun. At that time the gun would have been 76mm Oto-Melara Compact.
The Dutch planned 57mm various times....
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 12th, 2011, 7:02 am
by rd77
Very interesting! The M-frigates were definitely a case of "capability creep". I have a Dutch-language book on the history of the M-frigates at home (I'm sure you are aware of this book?). Let me look at it tonight and see if there is anything useful in there for you...
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 12th, 2011, 7:03 am
by rd77
oh, and...was the Goalkeeper already known in 1977? Just asking, I really don't know...
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 12th, 2011, 11:26 am
by acelanceloet
rd77 wrote:Very interesting! The M-frigates were definitely a case of "capability creep". I have a Dutch-language book on the history of the M-frigates at home (I'm sure you are aware of this book?). Let me look at it tonight and see if there is anything useful in there for you...
a book? if you have any intel on these ships, please share it, because I don't have much information........ only drawings, length, displacement and a bit about weapons and radars is known to me. for the rest I have to guess mostly, so if you could scan some stuff....
and for the goalkeeper: it was first delivered in 1980. so in 1977 they could of course plan to have them on new ships.
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 12th, 2011, 1:35 pm
by rd77
This is the book:
http://www.defensieforum.be/forum_viewt ... p?27.23784
I don't have a scanner handy, but I'll see what I can do for you.
Re: M-frigate development
Posted: May 12th, 2011, 1:42 pm
by ALVAMA
Ah that book. I saw it in the book shop, but way too expensive