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Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: September 21st, 2022, 7:03 am
by Karle94
Here's a thread for the largest and most powerful of all the coastal-defense ships ever made; Swedens very own Sverige class.

Sverige as completed in 1917:
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Drottning Victoria as completed in 1921:
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I would have drawn thew Gustav V as completed in 22 if she was any different from the Victoria. These ships don't differ really at all till the rebuilds in the 30s.

Re: Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: October 16th, 2022, 11:10 am
by Psilander
You have the wrong ensign. RSwN naval ensign looks like this.
Image You use the merchant navy ensign.

Re: Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: October 16th, 2022, 11:23 am
by Karle94
It's not the ensign, but the national flag. Ensigns are not flown underway.

Re: Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: October 16th, 2022, 7:39 pm
by Psilander
Well - The Sverigeclass flew their colors on the stern flagpost. Even thow she had an afr mast until 1931 the moat common place for her under way flag is in the stern.
The flag should stille be the swedish battleflag/ Royal flag, the three tongued ensign.
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Re: Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: October 16th, 2022, 10:23 pm
by Reinhard
Is the Sverige just a lightly armored pre-dreadnaught battleship? Her length, her beam, her draught and armament are comparable to a Deutschland class pre-dreadnaught, but she is half the displacement.

Re: Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: October 16th, 2022, 10:30 pm
by heuhen
Reinhard wrote: October 16th, 2022, 10:23 pm Is the Sverige just a lightly armored pre-dreadnaught battleship? Her length, her beam, her draught and armament are comparable to a Deutschland class pre-dreadnaught, but she is half the displacement.
They are classified as Coastal defense ship, but you can call them as mini-battleship or pocket battleship, etc.

Re: Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: October 17th, 2022, 12:48 am
by Reinhard
heuhen wrote: October 16th, 2022, 10:30 pm
Reinhard wrote: October 16th, 2022, 10:23 pm Is the Sverige just a lightly armored pre-dreadnaught battleship? Her length, her beam, her draught and armament are comparable to a Deutschland class pre-dreadnaught, but she is half the displacement.
They are classified as Coastal defense ship, but you can call them as mini-battleship or pocket battleship, etc.
I just think the Sverige's are considered the best Coastal Defense ships because they are in fact Pre-Dreadnaught battleships.
I would like to see a battle between the Sverige and Schleswig-Holstein. See how that turns out, say in 1939.

Re: Sverige Class: Sweden's Almost Battleships

Posted: October 20th, 2022, 9:23 pm
by Psilander
Well…
Deutschlands pre-dread would be no match Sverige has the range of her guns and speed 22,5kts. The RSwN saw the german Deutschland pocket battleships as their main adversary. The three sister trained to fight together - out flank an enemy and even fight over the horison. The squadron trained over the horizon gunnery with a destroyer or aircraft as spotter.