German Capital Ship Design Studies of The First World War

[eswube]

Interesting effort. Keep it up!

[Tempest]

Thanks guys I'm going to be working on Mackensen and Ersatz Yorck next.

[maomatic]

Very nice work, Tempest!
Great news about the Mackensen and Ersatz Yorck.

Out of curiosity and since I am not that familiar with the subject:
Did WW1-era german battleships feature such extensive linoleum-covered decks?
(If that is what the reddish-coloured areas are representing.)

[Tempest]

Thanks maomatic.

I used the book German Battlecruisers of World War One: Their Design, Construction and Operations
By Garry Staff as the source of the dark scarlet paint. In the illustrations the superstructure decking is consistent in the scale to what I have done. I know I've drawn a battleship rather than a battlecruiser but the paint schemes were pretty standard imho and I've guesstimated the area covered with my rendition of the L 20 e.

Unfortunately I have no other sources that give me any idea of what colour the superstructure decking was.

I would like to see more English language books being published on Kaiserliche Marine warships, including paint schemes.

[maomatic]

Ah, that's very interesting. Thanks for the reply.

I reckon it must be linoleum. I tried to represent it on my Graf Spee drawing in a similar way.
Also it kind of makes sense - for a wartime-design - to use cheap linoleum instead of a more expensive wood-decking.

Keep up the good work!

[Tempest]

I was editing my post while you had replied.

I had no idea it was linoleum and assumed it was wood, thanks for that piece of information

And thank you, I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work



Further to my last I just Googled the German use of linoleum on their warships and the first link mentioned it's use: http://german-navy.tripod.com/sms_paint-overview.htm. I've used that link before but had overlooked mentioning its use in warships.

[Tempest]

I thought I'd post what I have so far for Mackensen.

I hope what I've drawn so far is ok.

[emperor_andreas]

VERY nice work!

[Garlicdesign]

Hello Tempest

I like it. Already closer to the mark (bow shape!) than Rurik-2's old drawing that still spooks around in the www.

Two little things, if you don't mind:
a) I'm not wholly sure about the rudder - right now it looks like it is hinged to a fixed part, but Groener and Breyer depict it as one-piece, rotating around the shaft.
b) I'm also not sure the sheer of the hull continued all the way to the stern. Right now, deck height gets dangerously low towards the stern - either the upper edge of the armour belt also tapers down or the weather deck aft was level (that's what I believe). Maybe a problem with the source drawing. For whatever that's worth, my 1/700 resin model of Mackensen has a level weatherdeck aft without sheer.

Of course, if you have firm data that disproves me, I revoke everything and claim the opposite

Greetings
GD

[Tempest]

Thanks emperor_andreas.

Garlicdesign

Thanks for your feedback.

The line in the rudder is supposed to represent the apex of two angled surfaces meeting, maybe a little shading on both surfaces will help and I used this image:-

to help with the hull. I know the other line drawing you mean, I'll have another look.

This is the type of feed back I was looking for

Thanks again.