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Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 27th, 2018, 9:23 am
by Rowdy36
My contribution to a fantastic challenge/thread, the Ranger Class fleet destroyer:

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Introduced into service primarily as anti-submarine escorts for RRN aircraft carriers and as a general purpose destroyer to replace elderly WW2 designs. An extensive build program was planned but the onset of guided missiles curtailed this and in the end just 8 vessels were completed, but they went on to see varied use and proved to be versatile ships receiving significant modifications throughout their service lives.

HMRS Ranger D53
HMRS Rogue D54
HMRS Revenge D55
HMRS Rascal D56
HMRS Remarkable D57
HMRS Resistance D58
HMRS Rakish D59
HMRS Reliable D60

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 27th, 2018, 2:47 pm
by Rhade
Top quality job lad, top quality!

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 27th, 2018, 8:14 pm
by acelanceloet
In 1945, after the German occupation forces left the Netherlands, the 2 Eendracht class cruisers under construction in Rotterdam were heavily damaged by explosives set off by the leaving Germans. The yard machinery and cranes were destroyed as well. The Royal Netherlands Navy required flagships for their fleet, as the goal was to operate independently from allied navies in protecting the Dutch interests and their merchant fleet. While it was assessed if the cruisers could be repaired and completed, development started on the 1947 onderzeebootjagers (destroyers) which would form the main part of the new modern Dutch fleet. These classes, 4 (1947A) Holland class and 8 (1947B/1949) Friesland class were approved in 1948 and 1949 respectively, with them being constructed from 1950 to 1955 and from 1951 to 1958. After different studies were done on the feasibility of repairing the cruisers or building new ships, it was decided to build 3 new destroyers and scrap the cruisers. The construction of these destroyers was to be done by the traditional cruiser yards, RDM and Wilton Feijnenoord, both in Rotterdam, lying across the river from each other in Rotterdam. These 1947 C destroyers were approved in 1951, construction started in 1954. The last 1947 C destroyer was completed in 1958.

At first these new destroyers were to be some sort of broad beam Friesland class, having an additional superstructure level forward and an heightfinder radar on the aft superstructure. This design would loose to much speed to be acceptable, and would prove to be extremely cramped even in the conceptual design phase. Instead, an all new design was created, using elements of the British Cruiser-Destroyer concepts, the Dutch cruiser studies and of course the 1947 destroyers. To keep training and development costs relatively low, it was required to use as much components of the other new RNLN ships as possible. The role of the new destroyer was that of flagship, with their armament focussed on surface targets. Their ASW and AAW armament was mainly meant for self defence. To allow as much concentrated firepower on the limited size hull (limited by the machinery, which was the same as used in the Friesland class) the main battery of 3 Bofors twin 120mm turrets was all placed forward. This created an unique warship which could force away all destroyer sized opponents, and could even make a stand against the feared Sverdlov cruisers. Against opponents where the guns would prove insufficient, a quintuple torpedo launcher was placed amidships, which was meant to be fitted with homing ASuW torpedoes.

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Specifications:
Length: 141m OA, 137m WL
Beam: 12,5m
Draft: 4,72m
Displacement: 4300 metric tons
Top speed: 33 knots on 60000 shp
Machinery installation based on that of the Friesland class, which in turn was based on that of the Gearing class.

Armament
3 Bofors 120mm twin M1950s
4 Bofors 40mm single #6 mountings
2 Bofors Depth Charge rocket launchers
1 Bofors Lichtraketwerper
1 Quintuple 21in torpedo launcher.
1 Depth charge rack.

Fire control
HSA STARIK

Radars:
HSA LW-01 air search radar
HSA VI-01 heightfinding radar
HSA DA-01 Target indication radar
HSA ZW-01 Surface search radar


note: I might just add more history, specs and modifications to this post soon, let's see what kind of time I have for that stuff in the coming days, but I wanted this to be in here already in case I have none :P
I see some excellent work posted here, and I have again entered something slightly crazy, so I hope my work is good enough this time :P

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 28th, 2018, 12:53 am
by 1143M
A beautiful ship~
The design based on this ship~? :)
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Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 28th, 2018, 1:53 am
by reytuerto
Wonderful destroyer, Ace! Is almost a "mini-Grau"!
Nice design Rowdy!
Hey, Char! What a interesting little escort! Defined lines and powerful armament for its size. I like it!

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 28th, 2018, 5:32 am
by heuhen
There have been some beautiful design in here lately

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 28th, 2018, 1:43 pm
by erik_t
Ace, do you think the centerline torpedo tubes would clear the deck edge without being raise onto a deckhouse?

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 28th, 2018, 2:44 pm
by acelanceloet
erik_t wrote: August 28th, 2018, 1:43 pm Ace, do you think the centerline torpedo tubes would clear the deck edge without being raise onto a deckhouse?
They did on the Daring class of about the same age and beam, so yes, I think they would. That said, one of the first updates I think the ships will get is swapping it for fixed tubes at the deck edge.

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 28th, 2018, 8:51 pm
by erik_t
That's good enough for me!

Re: Early Cold War Destroyer challenge

Posted: August 29th, 2018, 12:42 pm
by 1143M
acelanceloet wrote: August 28th, 2018, 2:44 pm
erik_t wrote: August 28th, 2018, 1:43 pm Ace, do you think the centerline torpedo tubes would clear the deck edge without being raise onto a deckhouse?
They did on the Daring class of about the same age and beam, so yes, I think they would. That said, one of the first updates I think the ships will get is swapping it for fixed tubes at the deck edge.
What about two torpedo tubes?both sides of deck