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[emperor_andreas]

Just found this if anyone wants to take on this job...hope it helps. (I posted it here as I didn't think the Ship References Section was the absolute proper place.)

http://www.southernsteamtrains.com/images/bbdrawing.jpg

There's also this ginormous steel beast...truly the "super-Yamato" of steam locomotives. He was actually built.

http://www.trainzitaliafoto.com/davinci/pict/hb.jpg

[odysseus1980]

Union Pacific was always famous for its powerful locomotives, steam of diesel.

[Blackbuck]

I'm pretty sure that 4-8-8-8-6 cannot have been even a pipe dream for some delirious of designers... The thing is utterly ludicrous!

[emperor_andreas]

Here's the final, as-completed design with an even longer tender:

http://sbiii.com/bw-gapix/hugeboy3.jpg

This ginormous beast could pull 7-MILE trains with ease, but it was pure hell on the tracks it ran on; Union Pacific actually had to have another train carrying a repair crew following the train this monster was pulling to repair the tracks as it went over them! Here's an actual photograph of this monster:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/ijnfleet ... up8000.jpg

[heuhen]

Well sorry to disappoint you but that one is Photoshoped, here the real thing that it was Photoshoped from:

Do you see the diference and where they have done the copy and past:



Big Boy is still the world biggest locomotive. But there was an locomotive with 4-8-8-8-4, but in a shorter variant. The problem it had was that it could produce enough steam for the sylinders. so that one was rebuild and split in to a 4-8-8-2 and a 2-8-0.


Luke... Luke use Google, if that doesn't work, use lubricant!


BTW. you will like this one. the Big Boy is to be rebuild by ... Union Pacific...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6k22fdERLI

[Blackbuck]

Not the world's biggest, but biggest commercially successful

[heuhen]

Not the world's biggest, but biggest commercially successful

it depends on how you look at it.

[Blackbuck]

Not really. There were some behemoths that were even more unwieldy than the Big Boys were.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/misc/largest.php

[heuhen]

the funny thing after gone trough that list and he that made that webpage own page on Big Boy, I find the Big Boy still the biggest... funny that. but I also think his information is inaccurate, since he say that Big Boy produced 6000hp and not 6290hp as she did.

His list is on locomotive that haven't that boggy solution like Big Boy have, that means Big Boy can do 20 degrees turn, the locomotives on the list can't. And some of the locomotives on the list is an electric generator powered by the steam engine..

It is interesting a list like that, in some area Big Boy is the leader, and in some area she is in the top 5 or top 10. While Big Boy is an pure steam locomotive, many other ships on the list are either a Turbine locomotives, Electric-steam or even looks build to use Diesel!!

But as the biggest locomotive in the world, just as pure steam locomotive... Big Boy, but if every thing is allowed, give me Jawn Henry class any day.. that beast!

So let us go trough the list, from top to bottom as I see it at least:
(note all information is coming from his web page, and I will add in extra information behind that)(Note Big Boy is an Articulated locomotives)

Non-Articulated Steam Locomotives
Most Pulling Force (Non-Articulated):

Tractive Effort
Big Boy: 135,375
Madam Queen class: 113,087
Q-2 class: 100,800 (115,800 w/booster)

Most Powerful (Non-Articulated)
Q-2 class: 7,987@57.4 (IHP) (but she was an non-articulated locomotives)
Big Boy: 6290 hp (she was an Articulated locomotives)

Longest (Non-Articulated)
S-1 class: 140 (with tender) 78 (without the tender)
Big Boy: 132 (with tender) 85 (without tender)

Heaviest (Non-Articulated)
Big Boy: 1,250,000
Q-2 class: 1,053,100

It's first her Big Boy starting to get some competition:

Most Pulling Force (Articulated)

Tractive Effort
Jawn Henry class: 180,000 (steam electric, so that one doesn't count)
X-A class: 166,300 (compound) 199,560 (simple) (But this one could'n hold the steam pressure up, the boiler was to small.
AE class: 147,200 (compound) 176,600 (simple) (it was first when they was rebuild to an twin engine with bigger boiler they was success in the slow 6mph coal train service)
Big Boy: 135,375

Most Powerful (Articulated)
H-8 class: 7,498@46MPH (It is said that the dyno she was tested on, might not be correct put up. This is said by those people because she have an smaller engine than Big Boy or Big Boy smaller sister)
Big Boy: 6,298 hp (Estimated, never tested on Dyno)
M-1 class: 6,000 (turbine) 3,000 (DBHP)

Longest (Articulated)
Jawn Henry class: 161 (Diesel-steam)
M-1 class: 154 (was named by those that operated it as the best build)
Big Boy: tiny 132

Heaviest (Articulated) (based on engine weight)
Big Boy: 1,250,000 (with tender)
M-1 class: 1,233,970 (with tender) (she was build as an dual purpose, passenger and heavy haulage)

[Blackbuck]

I really can't be bothered getting into a slagging match about how awesome Big Boys were. Really I can't. I despise the ungainly and frankly horrendous land ships that the Americans produced. Give me a proper engine to care about any day.