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Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 6:28 pm
by bezobrazov
Well, one thing I know for sure it's something worth waiting for!

Gawd, I so have to start "shipbucketize" my own ink-pen drawings of various historical ships, such as the St Erik (A Swedish carvel ship from 1560), Mars (another Swedish 16th c. ship), Grace Dieu (Edward III:s "Great Carrack"" from 1418), Prince Royal as of 1663-66, Swedish Royal Ship Svärdet from 1663, Danish Christianus Quintus from 1665, Soleil Royal of 1748, Foudroyant of 1694, El Fenix (1749) and a few more...

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 6:36 pm
by KHT
bezobrazov wrote:Well, one thing I know for sure it's something worth waiting for!

Gawd, I so have to start "shipbucketize" my own ink-pen drawings of various historical ships, such as the St Erik (A Swedish carvel ship from 1560), Mars (another Swedish 16th c. ship), Grace Dieu (Edward III:s "Great Carrack"" from 1418), Prince Royal as of 1663-66, Swedish Royal Ship Svärdet from 1663, Danish Christianus Quintus from 1665, Soleil Royal of 1748, Foudroyant of 1694, El Fenix (1749) and a few more...
Looking forward to it. :D

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 6:46 pm
by bezobrazov
Gah...just add more pressure... :shock: :cry: 8-) ;)

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 7:29 pm
by CraigH
Bezo...twist, squeeze, tighten.

Kht, you could always scan them at about 96 dpi, scale them down and call it good. As I recall that's about what th SB drawings are. I've not considered doing any of my manual drafting stuff. Thinking about that, I wonder where I stashed most of those drafting tools, curves, etc.

CraigH

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:07 pm
by Colombamike
Few French sources
La Couronne 1636
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Le Fleuron 1729
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La Renommée 1744
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Marseille 1764
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Montebello
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Montebello (underwater hull details)
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Another French one
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Valmy hull
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Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:26 pm
by bezobrazov
LOL, is that a hint to me??? 8-) ;)

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:30 pm
by darthpanda
bezobrazov wrote:Well, one thing I know for sure it's something worth waiting for!

Gawd, I so have to start "shipbucketize" my own ink-pen drawings of various historical ships, such as the St Erik (A Swedish carvel ship from 1560), Mars (another Swedish 16th c. ship), Grace Dieu (Edward III:s "Great Carrack"" from 1418), Prince Royal as of 1663-66, Swedish Royal Ship Svärdet from 1663, Danish Christianus Quintus from 1665, Soleil Royal of 1748, Foudroyant of 1694, El Fenix (1749) and a few more...
Question!
Grace Dieu is not the Henri Grace a Dieu? Right?

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:38 pm
by bezobrazov
Nope, Henri Grace a Dieu was Henry VII:s and latter (Henry VIII:s) great carrack, built in 1509, rebuilt in 1530-35, and as such depicted by Anthony Anthony.

Grace Dieu was a huge carrack (some 170 feet between perpendiculars!) built in Bayonne for King Henry V (Not Edward III, as I stated erronenously in my previous post!), in 1415-18, and "abandoned" around 1430.
She carried some waist guns and had guns in her focs'le and stern "castel" (as it was called).

Sometime in 1984/85 I made a reconstruction of her, based on her technical info, and the few known pictures of her, in ink on paper.

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 9:00 pm
by darthpanda
bezobrazov wrote:Nope, Henri Grace a Dieu was Henry VII:s and latter (Henry VIII:s) great carrack, built in 1509, rebuilt in 1530-35, and as such depicted by Anthony Anthony.

Grace Dieu was a huge carrack (some 170 feet between perpendiculars!) built in Bayonne for King Henry V (Not Edward III, as I stated erronenously in my previous post!), in 1415-18, and "abandoned" around 1430.
She carried some waist guns and had guns in her focs'le and stern "castel" (as it was called).

Sometime in 1984/85 I made a reconstruction of her, based on her technical info, and the few known pictures of her, in ink on paper.
Aha! thank you for the information, well I quite fancy to do Henri Grace a Dieu.

Re: Project Sail

Posted: March 4th, 2014, 6:50 am
by Rodondo
A break in study, why not!

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I'm personally happy with how the rivets are coming out but that's just my biased opinion, does it work?