Kingdom of Grays Harbor
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Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
By doing what the Japanese did with the Fuso class, you can move the turrets to the centerline without moving the superstructure. What they did was shortening the barrels.
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Or, I could just leave them where they are, which also has precedent, as this design is based off the German Helgoland, with the hull lengthened and superfiring turrets added fore and aft.
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Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
Side armor is going to suffer if you leave em´ where they are.
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I guess that depends on the beam, and how far from the centreline they are situated...
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If the ship is around the same size as the Helgoland class, I guess there should´t be much of a problem.
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LARGE DESTROYER - KITTINGS CLASS 1939
Displacement: 2,919 t standard; 3,119 t normal; 3,279 t full load
Length: 428'
Beam: 39'
Draught: 18"
Propulsion: 4 boilers, 2 Geared Steam Turbines, 2 shafts
Speed: 35 knots
Range: 3,200 NM @ 15 knots
Complement: 260
Armament:
6 x 4.7" (6 x 1)
12 x 40mm (1 x 4; 4 x 2)
12 x torpedo tubes (4 x 3)
Ships in Class
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Kittings
Oconee
Patersdown
Edrington
Amandale
Correston
Port Nathaniel
Moreanus
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Displacement: 2,919 t standard; 3,119 t normal; 3,279 t full load
Length: 428'
Beam: 39'
Draught: 18"
Propulsion: 4 boilers, 2 Geared Steam Turbines, 2 shafts
Speed: 35 knots
Range: 3,200 NM @ 15 knots
Complement: 260
Armament:
6 x 4.7" (6 x 1)
12 x 40mm (1 x 4; 4 x 2)
12 x torpedo tubes (4 x 3)
Ships in Class
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Kittings
Oconee
Patersdown
Edrington
Amandale
Correston
Port Nathaniel
Moreanus
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Last edited by Zephyr on June 19th, 2012, 3:27 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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COASTAL MINELAYER - VINCENT STOURLEY CLASS 1919
Displacement: 644 t standard; 703 t normal; 751 t full load
Length: 180'
Beam: 29'
Draught: 12"
Propulsion: 2 coal-fired boilers, 1 Triple expansion engine, 1 shaft, 107 tons coal
Speed: 16 knots
Range: 3,000 NM @ 10 knots
Complement: 70
Armament:
2 x 3" (2 x 1)
2 x 1 Pdr (2 x 1)
80 x Sea mines
Ships in Class
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Vincent Stourley
Thomas Riesen
William Etheridge
Larson vanHowe
Francis Gouen
Edward Monke
Peter Graveling
Stephen Browne
Samuel R Thomas
Adam Beltein
Zachary Gaynor
Peter Lufgrin
Thomas Weatherly
Hallen Oates
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Displacement: 644 t standard; 703 t normal; 751 t full load
Length: 180'
Beam: 29'
Draught: 12"
Propulsion: 2 coal-fired boilers, 1 Triple expansion engine, 1 shaft, 107 tons coal
Speed: 16 knots
Range: 3,000 NM @ 10 knots
Complement: 70
Armament:
2 x 3" (2 x 1)
2 x 1 Pdr (2 x 1)
80 x Sea mines
Ships in Class
---------------
Vincent Stourley
Thomas Riesen
William Etheridge
Larson vanHowe
Francis Gouen
Edward Monke
Peter Graveling
Stephen Browne
Samuel R Thomas
Adam Beltein
Zachary Gaynor
Peter Lufgrin
Thomas Weatherly
Hallen Oates
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Last edited by Zephyr on April 14th, 2012, 3:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
I fully approve of your Kittings Class! Very stylish and racy! I'd continue the forward tripd all the way to the deck, and possibly delete one of the directors (the aft one) alternatively position it on the forward supestructure instead. Other than that, a beautiful creation!
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Thanks! Always nice to hear I'm on the right track with something. A question, though. Why delete the aft director? I would think with six individual gun mounts having a second director would be a good thing, or that putting it on the forward superstructure would make that rather crowded? You're right about the tripod though. In fact, on an earlier version it did go all the way to the deck, then I did some work on the funnels, and forgot to re-extend it. oops. Didn't even notice that until you pointed it out. lol
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SCOUT CRUISER - LILITH CLASS 1922
Displacement: 8,012 t standard; 8,995 t normal; 9,782 t full load
Length: 514' OA / 482' Waterline
Beam: 56'
Draught: 24'
Propulsion: 8 Boilers; 4 Geared Steam Turbines; 4 Shafts
Speed: 32 knots
Range: 7,600 NM @ 15 knots
Complement: 574
Armament:
8 x 6" (4 x 2)
8 x 4" (8 x 1)
12 x 2 Pdr (1 x 4; 4 x 1)
Aviation:
2 x Catapult
3 x Floatplane
Ships in Class
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Lilith (1922)
Mermaid (1922)
Siren (1923)
Reclassified as light cruisers in 1925 when the scout cruiser classification was done away with and split off from cruisers into the aircraft carrier classification.
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Displacement: 8,012 t standard; 8,995 t normal; 9,782 t full load
Length: 514' OA / 482' Waterline
Beam: 56'
Draught: 24'
Propulsion: 8 Boilers; 4 Geared Steam Turbines; 4 Shafts
Speed: 32 knots
Range: 7,600 NM @ 15 knots
Complement: 574
Armament:
8 x 6" (4 x 2)
8 x 4" (8 x 1)
12 x 2 Pdr (1 x 4; 4 x 1)
Aviation:
2 x Catapult
3 x Floatplane
Ships in Class
-------------
Lilith (1922)
Mermaid (1922)
Siren (1923)
Reclassified as light cruisers in 1925 when the scout cruiser classification was done away with and split off from cruisers into the aircraft carrier classification.
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"Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way." - The Seventh Doctor