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Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: January 15th, 2014, 9:22 pm
by Colosseum
darthpanda wrote:
Colosseum wrote:... you drew an entire rifle without knowing what version it was????
I though i had the G3A3 version, i based the drawing from a picture.
It seems that H&K produce more version for the civilian market (or better say: Texasian market)

I will have to start from scrath again.
Well, that's surprisingly not true: H&K has never supported sales to civilians. The "G3" rifles you see being owned by Texans are PTR-91s or CETMEs, civilian-imported and rebuilt semi-autos made from H&K parts kits. ;)

Anyway, that is the G3A3 model with the larger handguard with bipod cuts. There was another variant of the G3A3 handguard which was slimmer but offered less heat protection. The trigger group is also correct.

Looks like a great drawing regardless. ;) I would like to see the versions with wood and OD green furniture as well!

Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: January 18th, 2014, 10:42 am
by darthpanda
FN Herstal P90 PDW - Belgium
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H&K G3A3 - Germany
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Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: January 18th, 2014, 3:15 pm
by odysseus1980
Nice to see the G3A3, a rifle I was trained to use during my military duty.

A real hellenic-built G3A3 comes in two versions, with a litle difference in the rotating switch. First built (1979-late 1980's) had numbers (0 for "S", "1" for "E" and "20" for "F"), and 1990's built had two letters in same position ("ΑΣ", "ΒΒ", "ΒΡ", Ασφάλεια, Βολή κατά Βολή, Βολή κατά Ριπάς). When I did my military duty, I had an G3A3 of the first generation (if remember correctly it was built in 1985), while I saw also the other version. Also I think that the plastics are darker, but for sure are mat.

However, if I lived in Hellenic Kingdom, I would have a FAL-derived rifle, not the G3A3.

Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: January 19th, 2014, 1:22 pm
by darthpanda
Enfield No2 MKI - Great Britain
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Enfield No2 MKI* - Great Britain
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Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: January 22nd, 2014, 7:59 pm
by darthpanda
Walther P99 - Germany
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Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: March 12th, 2014, 8:55 pm
by JDolan
A bunch of Steyr-Mannlicher 1895s that I am working on. I've only finished one of them, but the others are coming together nicely I think.

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Only issue (aside from a lack of shading on everything but the Kavallerie) is that I need to double-check the sling swivel positions and configurations on several of the guns, as well as the scope mounting for the sniper rifle.

Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: March 12th, 2014, 9:57 pm
by eswube
@JDolan
I honestly don't want to sound discouraging, but these drawings look just very crude.
Could we see Your sources?
What I can already say, that in many places lines which should be straight or at least regular look like zig-zags (that's especially visible on stock).
Locks look rather "blurry", I'd say.
As for the shading on the carbine - although SB drawings use 1-pixel-thick shade along the edges as the basic way of showing that something's rounded, that does not apply to Gunbucket where it's supposed to more closely show the actual shape (as You can see on other pictures in the thread).

Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: March 12th, 2014, 10:21 pm
by JDolan
I....see. Not quite what I was hoping for, but I understand where you're coming from.

I'll put together the full compilation of references and get them along to you.

EDIT: Sources I used.

I started with the 50" infantry rifle (drawn off of the line-drawing in the center of the page above the large rifles), and then using what sources I had in this sheet for the other variants that I did, I did them.

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Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: March 12th, 2014, 11:13 pm
by Colosseum
I drew the M1895/34 carbine a while back:

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You could probably use this as a basis for the rest of the rifles, but I have to admit I'm not very knowledgeable about them - only that the ammo is $1/rd and it kicks like a mule. Still I had a lot of fun shooting steel at 250 yards with it!

Re: Real Gunbucket For Real Designs

Posted: March 13th, 2014, 9:18 pm
by darthpanda
Heckler & Koch MK23 - Germany
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