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Re: KHT Projects

Posted: November 4th, 2014, 12:10 pm
by pegasus206
Thats sad news i always loved to see your designs. But i can understand your i was fighting a big depression in the begin off this year and SB was apart offf my way out off it. Hope to see you back here again

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 7:58 pm
by KHT
I'd like to thank you all for the very kind words, both in regards to the drawing, and to life in general. Cheers to you all. :)

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: January 27th, 2016, 6:04 am
by KHT
Holy hell, this was a while ago...
To update on the situation with which I left this thread; yes, I punted that depression by the balls and moved onwards, worked my ass off during the rest of the year, danced on the brink of yet another dive, but got out of it, and currently bludgeoning any residuals feelings of angst with a proverbial hammer of general anger(No, this is not healthy. Yes, that's a secondary matter). And for the first time in forever(singers will be shot), I felt like drawing a new ship, and completing it. One ship became four, and here we are.
Like many of my personal designs, these were part of some grand flying scheme of an alternate universe of for me unpresedented scale. I tempered these schemes with a good deal of self knowledge, and as soon as I stopped feeling like making more ships, I pulled the break, instead of trying to force myself to make the rest of the ships for said AU(I have piles of completed drawings that have been mothballed simply because I couldn't bring myself to put them i templates after having tried to just cram out more ships for that specific AU).
Jesus, I really am incapable of making a return without a long winded rant replete with self depricating observations.
To get to the point, here are the ships(Photobucket took its sweet time uploading the buggers, tell you that):
The obligatory large cruiser that you can't escape whenever I start to draw AU ships;
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Laid down 1934.

Displacement: 12 600 t standard, 13 800 t max

Armament
3x3 219mm/50
5x2 110mm/50
4x2 37mm/55
13x1 20mm/60

Armour
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 60 mm
Turrets: 200 mm(Front)
Conning tower: 150 mm

Speed: 31 knots
Range: 4500 NM at 15 knots

The light cruiser that you could swear is the large cruiser's younger brother who wants to be just like him:
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Laid down 1937.

Displacement: 7700 t standard, 8600 t max

Armament
3x3 158 mm/50
3x2, 2x1 110mm/50
1x2 37mm/55
18x1 20mm/50

Armour
Belt: 100 mm
Deck: 40 mm
Turrets: 120 mm
Conning tower: 120 mm

Speed: 32 knots
Range: 4500 NM at 15 knots

The generic destroyer which always appears to accompany my bigger projects:
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Laid down 1936.

Displacement: 1280 t standard, 1420 t max

Armament
3x1 122mm/50
1x2 37mm/55
4x1 20mm60
2x3 533mm TT

Speed: 35 knots
Range: 2400 NM at 18 knots

And a smaller escort destroyer, heavily inspired by the Elbing class:
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Laid down 1938.

Displacement: 1180 t standard, 1400 t max

Armament
1x2, 2x1 110mm/50
1x2 37mm/55
1x2, 4x1 20mm/60

Speed: 32 knots
Range: 2800 NM at 17 knots

I'll probably try update the first destroyer once I get home from work, but really wanted to post this now... hence the slightly bare aft superstructure.
Welp, that was pretty much it... Cheers folks, it feels good to be back, though I'm unsure if I will post any more drawings in the close future.

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: January 27th, 2016, 6:29 am
by Krakatoa
Good looking ships Hugo, you have always had a nice touch when drawing your cruisers.


(In Greek/Roman mythology you could name them Hermes (6") and Apollo (8") - Apollo being the big brother of Hermes)

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: January 27th, 2016, 8:49 am
by Hood
Excellent drawings and a very nice looking set of ships.

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: January 27th, 2016, 10:18 am
by Blackbuck
I like them all! That smaller cruiser is just begging for an Italianate conical tower though :P

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: January 27th, 2016, 3:53 pm
by Rainmaker
I like these works a lot from an artistic standpoint. They have their own unique flair and architectural style, which is neither overly derivative of real-world influences, nor too simple and generic. Congrats!

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: January 27th, 2016, 4:21 pm
by BB1987
Great work, I particulary like the two cruisers.

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: January 28th, 2016, 10:35 am
by KHT
There, I've updated the destroyer slightly, and corrected some typos in the ship data.
Krakatoa wrote:Good looking ships Hugo, you have always had a nice touch when drawing your cruisers.


(In Greek/Roman mythology you could name them Hermes (6") and Apollo (8") - Apollo being the big brother of Hermes)
Thank you. The naming idea is actually slightly inspiring, and I might've used it had I planned to set these ships in a setting where the names themselves fit(Or if plans are changed and it becomes an AU in a fitting setting).
Hood wrote:Excellent drawings and a very nice looking set of ships.
Thank you very much.
Blackbuck wrote:I like them all! That smaller cruiser is just begging for an Italianate conical tower though :P
Thanks! And that might indeed be an idea... no promises though.
Rainmaker wrote:I like these works a lot from an artistic standpoint. They have their own unique flair and architectural style, which is neither overly derivative of real-world influences, nor too simple and generic. Congrats!
Thank you. I actually used a a few real world inspirations, mainly the Portland and Scharnhorst classes layout-wise for the cruisers.
BB1987 wrote:Great work, I particulary like the two cruisers.
Thanks!

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 12th, 2016, 8:06 pm
by KHT
Another cruiser, this one with great disregard to any such concept as naval treaties, and with a rather Italian flare. Yes, she is named and nationed in the Springsharp report.
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ARNS Aegnos III Theusthike, ARNS Ipeiteaos Outhikha, Aellisian Heavy Cruiser laid down 1934

Displacement:
13 549 t light; 14 137 t standard; 15 205 t normal; 16 059 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(695,36 ft / 682,41 ft) x 71,52 ft x (19,03 / 19,89 ft)
(211,95 m / 208,00 m) x 21,80 m x (5,80 / 6,06 m)

Armament:
9 - 7,99" / 203 mm 55,0 cal guns - 275,51lbs / 124,97kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1934 Model
3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 400 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,68lbs / 0,76kg shells, 1 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
4 double raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 985 lbs / 1 354 kg
Main Torpedoes
6 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m torpedoes - 1,532 t each, 9,194 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 424,21 ft / 129,30 m 11,48 ft / 3,50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
0,79" / 20 mm 616,80 ft / 188,00 m 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 65,29 ft / 19,90 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 5,91" / 150 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,76" / 70 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 5,91" / 150 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 108 345 shp / 80 825 Kw = 32,00 kts
Range 4 800nm at 17,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 922 tons

Complement:
684 - 890

Cost:
£6,105 million / $24,420 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 987 tons, 6,5 %
- Guns: 969 tons, 6,4 %
- Weapons: 18 tons, 0,1 %
Armour: 3 640 tons, 23,9 %
- Belts: 1 198 tons, 7,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 354 tons, 2,3 %
- Armament: 554 tons, 3,6 %
- Armour Deck: 1 456 tons, 9,6 %
- Conning Tower: 78 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 3 117 tons, 20,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 646 tons, 37,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 656 tons, 10,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 1,1 %
- On freeboard deck: 120 tons
- Above deck: 40 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21 485 lbs / 9 745 Kg = 84,2 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19
Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 14,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,573 / 0,579
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,54 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 18,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3,61 ft / 1,10 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 28,74 ft / 8,76 m, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m
- Aft deck: 35,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Average freeboard: 20,03 ft / 6,11 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 183,9 %
Waterplane Area: 34 806 Square feet or 3 234 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 606 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,03
- Longitudinal: 0,99
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room