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Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 6:34 am
by Rodondo
I do love the colors being used, very maritime!
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 4:55 pm
by heuhen
P class
PT boat
In commission: 1975-1998, 1998-2005 (Super-"P"), 2005-(Super-"P2")
Planned: 45
Completed: 45
Retired: 10
Scrapped: 11
Preserved: 5
in service: 19
Length: 47,5m
width: 6,7m
Draft: 1.5 m
Speed: 37 knots++ (depending on armament)
Range: 475 mi (710 km) at 32 knots (56 km/h)
Complement: 26 (including 6 officers)
Armarment:
1*76mm Bofors TAK 76 cannon
1*RAM box
6*Penguin SSMs
4 x TP 613 torpedo tubes
These boats were built to patrol the coast, and the long, narrow fjords. they are built with only one thing in the mind and it's all offensive. they later received an AA short capacity in the form of RAM, and a modified air search radar. They have, for some reason got the nickname "drug hunter" The prototype was able once to reach a speed of 48 knots, but without weapons and cargo.
Super "P2" version, there are only five boats of. this version is equipped with Thales radars and it has been mounted small wheels on the keel for when it's enter a LCD ship!
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 5:39 pm
by Portsmouth Bill
the "J" and "P" classes are commendable - they pass the test of looking feasible; but Caledonia
You have to decide what decade your living in: Archaic Soviet style ssm launchers on a modern hull just look daft.
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 5:40 pm
by ALVAMA
Portsmouth Bill wrote:the "J" and "P" classes are commendable - they pass the test of looking feasible; but Caledonia
You have to decide what decade your living in: Archaic Soviet style ssm launchers on a modern hull just look daft.
Pinquin/Gabriel style
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 5:45 pm
by Portsmouth Bill
What? No, just as I said - this is a ship that has stealth aspirations, VLS etc. You just don't stick a great frigging 'HGV petrol tanker' on it and expect to be taken seriously
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 5:47 pm
by Blackbuck
Couldn't you get away with something simiar to on the Houbei missile boats? Angle the launchers outwards but keep the relatively clean lines?
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 5:53 pm
by Portsmouth Bill
Beats me; I can see that there are Slava style launchers abaft the bridge, so any stealth integrity has already been compromised. I will retire on this one
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 5:54 pm
by acelanceloet
aren't those torpedo tubes?
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 6:03 pm
by ALVAMA
Portsmouth Bill wrote:What? No, just as I said - this is a ship that has stealth aspirations, VLS etc. You just don't stick a great frigging 'HGV petrol tanker' on it and expect to be taken seriously
Sorry mate, I mis understood.
Re: The Great Democratic kingdom caledonia
Posted: September 11th, 2011, 6:43 pm
by Thiel
Re the P class, I don't think the TAK76 is suitable.
They made sense because they made it possible to get a 76mm gun on something the size of an E-Boat. The P class is much bigger, big enough in fact to use the OTO 76 Compact which, unlike the TAK76, is a very good AA gun.
Also, you might want to find room for an aft facing director. As it stands right now you won't be able to engage air targets head-on because the RAM won't bear, but neither can you engage them dead astern because the director wont bear.