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I've got something in mind for it, and a viable carrier force to oppose America is not it. It's more of a fleet-in-being, forcing American forces to be tied up towards her destruction

Thiel wrote:build more F22s (As far as I'm aware they haven't finished the current order yet, so the production line and the workers are still there)

The F-22 represents a once nearly unique situation (it's becoming more and more common) where the production line was shut down with an eye toward restarting it at some point. All of the tooling was stored and numbered for eventual restart. Something similar happened with the B-1B and the B-2A.

As a minor aside Rocketdyne didn't save the tooling, but it did save all of the plans for the F-1 and J-2 engines. Only they didn't just save the plans, but they also took years worth of interviews with engineers and production staff about problems they encountered and how they got around those problems. That's why the J-2X was used in the ARES designs.

Thiel how do you know the Chinese navy amounts?

They have hide Nuclear subs for more then 10 years.
And recently 3 undercover submarine bases are found, wich can be larger then norfolk...
How do you know how much subs they have?

Its obvious, they are hiding stuff..
And they are showing some things to show the world a bit, so we dont think they got many.

I bet they got a large force under their skin, just like a Spy found that underground plane base with a lot of new J-10 fighter.

They have? Then how come I have an article from 1976 that describes the type 091 that was launched in 74? So much for secrecy.

Look at the forum from Sinodefence, and look at the recent pictures from their submarines.
You will see Submarines in build in harbour, look at how many at once.

Then look at the pictures from the harbour (active). Spot the difference?
3 classes, and a few hull numbers missing.
I bet those are underground.

And look at the rest from their shipbuilding.
They builded destroyer/frigates in a matter of time, and as i count right now from recent made pictures. They build even more at once then before.

Dont see that in the Western area...

From 2009/2010:








Massive recent build shipyard:

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2010/ ... pyard.html
^-- link to website with photos of it.

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... ts-on.html
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... ainer.html
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... omber.html
Some new fancy stuff.


Varyag Plus assumed blocks of a large ship behind it (Naval ship) (Reported to be finished around 2016-2019)

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... ber-5.html
2 new Type 052C destroyers, while 2 recently got finished


PSS Russia is building ZUBR's For china. Look what happened...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt3sef2U ... r_embedded
(That is in Russia )

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... asked.html
Saw their new ciws already btw?
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... asked.html
Or ram?

Show off from china:
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... light.html
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... s-far.html
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... -j-15.html


Owh owh, how does other countries fix their hurricane/earthquake striken
China does it like this:
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... later.html

Three years, 138 billion it took. and it is 95% finished.

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... -awac.html


UAV launcher truck
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... apter.html

PSS Boeing builds planes in China, did you knew?


Owh hell...
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... -army.html


Looks like the american barett .50 cal sniper?
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... niper.html

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... -10ah.html


http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... llite.html

Hmm, china will beat Nasa someday perhaps? OR not?


Look even more Copy pasta?!
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... -your.html
Looks like a C-30 TU-92 and some others.


Copy pasta again Iskandar?
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/ ... r-ssm.html


Meh it says enough. China builds a lot, Copy-pasta a lot. But we dont know a thing for sure and that is:
What do they have?
What can it do (Performance)
How good is it? (Reliable, strong, able to take their opponents of the same Tier)

I also hope a ww3 will never come, exept if it doesnt use Nukes in it, and will take out only the baddies...
But that wont happen ever, the goodies wil also die, so no war please

On the first picture, it almost looks like China is cloning the Burke and spamming it.

$50 says those things that look kinda like square SPY plates are filled with cement

Jesus, you guys are too impressed to believe what China is doing something many countries can't:P

Carnac wrote:On the first picture, it almost looks like China is cloning the Burke and spamming it.

$50 says those things that look kinda like square SPY plates are filled with cement

SB forum is not a naval forum in general, but a dedicated "sub" forum for certain type of naval drawing. I would assume in default that people in here and as part of our community will know about ships, warships expecially and that SB can retain some sort of level or standard of good general knowledge about them to show of to the outside world.

Immature and childish comments like these don't fit to the pattern at all. I've gotten some feedback from our members of how the forum has turned more into some sandbox of the ignorants, and Really do not wish it to be so, or more, to fear loosing our greater talents from SB becouse the forums starts fill up with galore of such rubbish as the quote here.

Be it last time you spit out frogs like these into the pages. If you don't know about something, don't post BS about it.

Myanmar definitely and with some cajoling I could see Indonesia swaying towards China.