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Rurik-2 wrote:It is interesting to others: why other German Battlecruisers - named without "VON"?

I don't know for sure but my guess is that the ship name "Von der Tann" is supposed to indicate that she was named after a person, not a place. As it happens there are a few places in Germany named Tann (which is not the case with Moltke, Seydlitz and the others) so I suppose the prefix "von der" was kind of a must to tell the difference.

Rurik-2 wrote:Von der Tann or von der Tann?????

Again, I can't tell for sure but thinking logically the first letter of a name (a ship name in our case) should be capital. So I think "Von der Tann" is the correct spelling.

WhyMe wrote:

Rurik-2 wrote:Von der Tann or von der Tann?????

Again, I can't tell for sure but thinking logically the first letter of a name (a ship name in our case) should be capital. So I think "Von der Tann" is the correct spelling.

But it isn't. In German, von is never spelled with a capital letter, even in the few instances where it appears as the first word in a sentence.
It's the same as the French d'A...

Either way I think we can agree that V/von der Tan is one of the most amusing names ever given to a German warship

Thiel wrote:

WhyMe wrote:

Rurik-2 wrote:Von der Tann or von der Tann?????

Again, I can't tell for sure but thinking logically the first letter of a name (a ship name in our case) should be capital. So I think "Von der Tann" is the correct spelling.

But it isn't. In German, von is never spelled with a capital letter, even in the few instances where it appears as the first word in a sentence.
It's the same as the French d'A...

It was merely a guess
Yet a quick research shows that the name spelled with lower case "v" in German sources, while every other language source spells it with a capital "V". Go figure

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the people who named her has a better idea about how to spell it than whoever did the translating.

Thiel wrote:But it isn't. In German, von is never spelled with a capital letter, even in the few instances where it appears as the first word in a sentence.
It's the same as the French d'A...

Do not confuse the name of the ship and the person's name.
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VON DER TANN - is correct. )))))

Okay, so my French is rotten. I'm still right about von.
And every single German site I've visited, except for wikipedia, agrees with me.

Rurik-2 wrote:VON DER TANN - is correct. )))))

No it's not. von der Tann is. The RN also write the ships names in all capitals on the ships, but everywhere else it's written normally.
Nowhere have I seen anything to suggest that this wasn't the case with the Hoch See Flotte

shall be written with small "v" I think.

I have an (type) inheritance cup, dating from far back in my family in Germany and it says "Gerhard von Heuser" in addition to Coat of arms and a date from sometime in the 1800s.

so i think it shuld have small "v"

from wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von):
"The prefix "von" is not capitalized in German speaking countries, unless it begins a sentence – for instance, "A book by von Humboldt", but "Von Humboldt wrote this book."

This is in contrast to Dutch Van, which in the north (Netherlands) is capitalized when standing alone (unless part of a clause), and in the south (Belgium) is always capitalized – for instance, "A paper by Van der Waals", though "The van der Waals radius", and "The politician Eric Van Rompuy.""

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