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Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 1:10 am
by nighthunter
Good point, Cowboy, about the hull #. Thank you for your kind words, I love my lil frigates, and the Knox would have been replaced by the Kendricks. Again, enjoy!

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 1:14 am
by Cruel2BEkind
Those are some great frigates... Thats a great job nighthunter!

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 1:23 am
by Trojan
Nighthunter excellent design as usual
Any chance we will be seeing those export versions?

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 3:28 am
by Cowboy40
nighthunter wrote:Good point, Cowboy, about the hull #. Thank you for your kind words, I love my lil frigates, and the Knox would have been replaced by the Kendricks. Again, enjoy!
From you back story of the type and the date on the initial vessels, I don't think they would be replacing what is relatively new ships on the early 70's. I am referring to of course to the Knox class. These ships were completed from 1969 to 1974.

You have your ships coming online in 1976. That would make your new class a contempruary to the Knox. That is the reason that i believe the ships would be more of a replacement for the older Bronstein class (1963) and the Garcia class (1964-1968). These two ships were designed under the FRAM program as new builds to operate the DASH system.

The DASH, was starting to show trouble in the later stages of the Garcia production run, so most of the later ships of this class operated a LAMPS II chopper.

Now back to the Kendrick class, Your ships ASW suite seems to be on par with what was carried on the Knox when they would first go to sea....mixed with the sensor suite of the O. H. Perry. This proves to be a good combination by the way. I like having this ship in my database.

I like this class and I enjoy it, but now it is more a follow on to the Knox then a replacement.

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 3:38 am
by Lebroba
What kind of sonar is on tge front of that thing? Is it AN/SQQ-89v4/6 or some variant?

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 3:51 am
by Cowboy40
Lebroba wrote:What kind of sonar is on tge front of that thing? Is it AN/SQQ-89v4/6 or some variant?
If the suite is on par with O. H. Perry, and this is what it looks like to me. It is a SQS-56 series sonar. It is a sonar that is very complex technology, but it has a modest range compared to the SQS-53 that you would find on destroyers and cruisers.

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 4:00 am
by seeker36340
It's an interesting project given the bureaucratic gunfight over various "high-low" concepts from the 1950s on. The USN basically gave up on frigates under John Lehman with an emphasis on getting AEGIS into the fleet and producing destroyers with long range. A frigate like this would have been an attractive export product.

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 5:49 am
by Lebroba
Cowboy40 wrote:
Lebroba wrote:What kind of sonar is on tge front of that thing? Is it AN/SQQ-89v4/6 or some variant?
If the suite is on par with O. H. Perry, and this is what it looks like to me. It is a SQS-56 series sonar. It is a sonar that is very complex technology, but it has a modest range compared to the SQS-53 that you would find on destroyers and cruisers.
It looks like he has a bow mounted AN/SQS-26 or AN/SQS-53X. If its a 53A/B or 26 there is no way there is enough room in the front of that ship to hold the electronics. And the amperage draw for going active might overwhelm the Combat system.

AN/SQS-56 from the OHP looks allot different. Its a sphereical array that kinda hangs down.

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 3:43 pm
by Cowboy40
Damn this ship fights well.....

Good work on her....

Re: USS John Kendrick class FFG

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 5:13 pm
by heuhen
Lebroba wrote:
Cowboy40 wrote:
Lebroba wrote:What kind of sonar is on tge front of that thing? Is it AN/SQQ-89v4/6 or some variant?
If the suite is on par with O. H. Perry, and this is what it looks like to me. It is a SQS-56 series sonar. It is a sonar that is very complex technology, but it has a modest range compared to the SQS-53 that you would find on destroyers and cruisers.
It looks like he has a bow mounted AN/SQS-26 or AN/SQS-53X. If its a 53A/B or 26 there is no way there is enough room in the front of that ship to hold the electronics. And the amperage draw for going active might overwhelm the Combat system.

AN/SQS-56 from the OHP looks allot different. Its a sphereical array that kinda hangs down.
It can be a OHP sonar but in a Different casing. It is like choosing to use MK-29 or MK-41 VLS for lunching Sea sparrow.