Shipbucket

Rhade wrote:

Lebroba wrote:I think you're being to hard on this design. It takes about 30 minutes to do a good DTOT with 2 ships. 2500 ships would take considerably longer. While waiting for the magic harpoon strike from hell he can get off about 3000 tomahawks per hour. If they are nuclear tipped, what ever country is on the receiving end is done for. forever. You'd be better off putting some of those Burkes on BMD patrol.

$1.45 million for each Tomahawk. He is not to hard on this design, he is very polite and nice on this design. I think it will be cheaper to build ... a DEATH STAR !!!

EDIT: It's only a $852,000,000,000,000,000 cost.

Heil!! Raise a !!DEATH STAR!!

In ALVAMA scale !!!

Rhade - don't give ALVAMA such ideas, he's able to do this.

eswube wrote:Rhade - don't give ALVAMA such ideas, he's able to do this.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

No, not bad, just scary...

Rhade wrote:

Lebroba wrote:I think you're being to hard on this design. It takes about 30 minutes to do a good DTOT with 2 ships. 2500 ships would take considerably longer. While waiting for the magic harpoon strike from hell he can get off about 3000 tomahawks per hour. If they are nuclear tipped, what ever country is on the receiving end is done for. forever. You'd be better off putting some of those Burkes on BMD patrol.

$1.45 million for each Tomahawk. He is not to hard on this design, he is very polite and nice on this design. I think it will be cheaper to build ... a DEATH STAR !!!

EDIT: It's only a $852,000,000,000,000,000 cost.

I don't think the other guy took into account the cost of paying, feeding and traing the 625,000 sailors, chiefs and officers it would take to crew those ships. Modestly it would cost about $37,500,000,000 USD a year just to pay them. Then if we are talking about a blue water engagement, to get those ships on station will require at least 2 RAS. That would be about $13,040,000,000 USD just to get ships on station. And all those harpoon missiles are about $1,200,000 USD a piece.

but thats all small change considering each Burke would cost about $1,000,000,000 USD to produce for a total of $2,500,000,000,000 USD. Even if you manage to guild 100 ships per year, it would take 25 years to get the 2500 ship fleet envisioned in that scenario, by the time you were ready to launch the harpoon from hell offensive, most of the ships would be nearing the end of their service life.

I'm just saying, I think he is getting a bargain considering his initial investment would ensure the total anhillation of his enemies.

Lebroba wrote:I don't think the other guy took into account the cost of paying, feeding and traing the 625,000 sailors, chiefs and officers it would take to crew those ships.

Like the other guy who don't take into account a lots of other things in his "arsenal ship" ? If we hit a reality fan it will blow off both ideas in a sec.

Buying a ship for 250 bln USD is supposed to be a bargain?
I'd say: get a fleet of, say, 300 B-52 bombers (or their equivalent, note - we're talking about relatively simple aircraft, not some fancy B-2). Each of them with 20 Cruise missiles, that gives 6000 missiles in one salvo plus several reloads. I guess it could fit below 250 bln USD price bracket (assuming that both the producers and buyers' project managers aren't the same ones that are leading JSF programme ), would be more elastic in their use, wouldn't need more crews and support staff then 250 Burke DDG's (even with air refueling aircraft) plus they would be available relatively quickly (in reality it took 6 years to get B-52 from signing the contract to flying the prototype, next 2 to start production and next 8 to make 744 of them, so less then half of that number could take proportionately less time).

Rhade wrote:

Lebroba wrote:I don't think the other guy took into account the cost of paying, feeding and traing the 625,000 sailors, chiefs and officers it would take to crew those ships.

Like the other guy who don't take into account a lots of other things in his "arsenal ship" ? If we hit a reality fan it will blow off both ideas in a sec.

Thats the point i was trying to make. The design is flawed and easily sinkable. But sometimes its fun to let our imaginations run wild.

Not always, not always ... one time when tiger run from circus in duration of hunt they shoot veterinarian.