Thiaria: Other People's ships
Moderator: Community Manager
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
Truly Awesome
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
These are fantastic additions.
The Turkish rebuilds with French assistance are a very neat touch and the Peruvians buying ex-White Fleet vessels is another interesting aspect, especially since in OTL they did acquire a couple of ex-Russian vessels from Estonia, so its a nice twist on history.
The only nitpick is in some entries the armament descriptions don't seem to match what's on the drawing. But the drawings themselves are the usual GD gold star quality.
The Turkish rebuilds with French assistance are a very neat touch and the Peruvians buying ex-White Fleet vessels is another interesting aspect, especially since in OTL they did acquire a couple of ex-Russian vessels from Estonia, so its a nice twist on history.
The only nitpick is in some entries the armament descriptions don't seem to match what's on the drawing. But the drawings themselves are the usual GD gold star quality.
Hood's Worklist
English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
Super-Darings
Never-Were British Aircraft
English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
Super-Darings
Never-Were British Aircraft
-
Garlicdesign
- Posts: 1071
- Joined: December 26th, 2012, 9:36 am
- Location: Germany
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
Hello everyone!
Thanks a lot, especially Hood for spotting the continuity error! Edited.
Greetings
GD
Thanks a lot, especially Hood for spotting the continuity error! Edited.
Greetings
GD
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
Such beautiful drawings! I haven't taken a look here in a while and I'm blown away by the attention to detail and the histories behind each.
In particular I really do like seeing the rebuilds over time, nice to see evolution of a hull.
Fantastic work
In particular I really do like seeing the rebuilds over time, nice to see evolution of a hull.
Fantastic work
"The first rule is not to lose; The second rule is not to forget the first rule"
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
These ships are amazing. I can't think of anything else to say. The Backstory, the drawings, everything about them is great.
What happened to Hüdavendigar Sultan Murat by the way.
What happened to Hüdavendigar Sultan Murat by the way.
-
emperor_andreas
- Posts: 3909
- Joined: November 17th, 2010, 8:03 am
- Location: Corinth, MS USA
- Contact:
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
AWESOME!!!
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
I'm late to the party, but very very cool stuff, indeed!
I love all the thought and work you have put into this thread.
I love all the thought and work you have put into this thread.
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
Nice Russian Black Sea fleet ships, and nice fate for the vessels interned at Bizerta ( 
). Cheers.
PS: Only one comment, Rear Admiral Montero was a navy officer, with an active political life, but little or not remembered as president.
). Cheers.PS: Only one comment, Rear Admiral Montero was a navy officer, with an active political life, but little or not remembered as president.
-
RegiaMarina1939
- Posts: 441
- Joined: January 12th, 2016, 8:57 pm
- Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
These are absolutely splendid, GD, wonderful backstories too!
Best regards,
RegiaMarina1939
RegiaMarina1939
-
Garlicdesign
- Posts: 1071
- Joined: December 26th, 2012, 9:36 am
- Location: Germany
Re: Thiaria: Other People's ships
Hello everyone!
France entered the dreadnought age in 1907 with a curious mix of old and new. The Danton-class, of which six originally were planned but only four realized on grounds of cost, had undergone a lenghty design process, and a dozen variants from between 16.000 and 21.000 tons with VTE-, VQE- or Turbine-propulsion, with mixed (4x305mm, 12x240mm) or single-caliber (20x240mm, 16x274mm, 10x305mm or 12x305mm) armament, and with armour schemes ranging from paper-thin to barely adequate, had been studied. In the end, the surprisingly rational decision was made to accept a lower number of hulls in order to achieve higher individual performance. The final design displaced 19.760 tons at normal load, was 152 meters long, 26,60 meters wide and had a normal draught of 8,8 meters (9,2 meters at full load). They had four-shaft turbine propulsion for 20 knots and a 270mm belt thinning to 150mm at the ship's ends and topped by a thin upper belt of 50mm to detonate enemy shells before they reached the upper of two 45mm decks. Armament was six twin turrets of the new 45-caliber 305mm gun, a powerful weapon firing 445kg-shells which were more destructive than their British counterparts and on par with their German ones. As was en-vogue at this time, the secondary battery was limited to 20 75mm guns to chase off torpedo boats. They still had some typically french defects, like the high unprotected forecastle running all the way back to the mainmast and the large silhouette with four widely spaced funnels, but in general they were viewed a huge improvement with a heavier broadside than HMS Dreadnought, despite their old-fashioned looks. Danton and Condorcet were laid down in 1907 and completed in 1911, Mirabeau and Voltaire in 1908 and completed in 1912.
Modifications and service notes in the Thiariaverse (invariably more lively than in OTL) will follow later.
Greetings
GD
France entered the dreadnought age in 1907 with a curious mix of old and new. The Danton-class, of which six originally were planned but only four realized on grounds of cost, had undergone a lenghty design process, and a dozen variants from between 16.000 and 21.000 tons with VTE-, VQE- or Turbine-propulsion, with mixed (4x305mm, 12x240mm) or single-caliber (20x240mm, 16x274mm, 10x305mm or 12x305mm) armament, and with armour schemes ranging from paper-thin to barely adequate, had been studied. In the end, the surprisingly rational decision was made to accept a lower number of hulls in order to achieve higher individual performance. The final design displaced 19.760 tons at normal load, was 152 meters long, 26,60 meters wide and had a normal draught of 8,8 meters (9,2 meters at full load). They had four-shaft turbine propulsion for 20 knots and a 270mm belt thinning to 150mm at the ship's ends and topped by a thin upper belt of 50mm to detonate enemy shells before they reached the upper of two 45mm decks. Armament was six twin turrets of the new 45-caliber 305mm gun, a powerful weapon firing 445kg-shells which were more destructive than their British counterparts and on par with their German ones. As was en-vogue at this time, the secondary battery was limited to 20 75mm guns to chase off torpedo boats. They still had some typically french defects, like the high unprotected forecastle running all the way back to the mainmast and the large silhouette with four widely spaced funnels, but in general they were viewed a huge improvement with a heavier broadside than HMS Dreadnought, despite their old-fashioned looks. Danton and Condorcet were laid down in 1907 and completed in 1911, Mirabeau and Voltaire in 1908 and completed in 1912.
Modifications and service notes in the Thiariaverse (invariably more lively than in OTL) will follow later.
Greetings
GD