Improved Type 22 + 23 Frigates
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Re: (Notional) Super Type 23
Having just checked it myself there is no way that the drawings are related in any way, other than the fact that they are both Type 23's or variants of Type 23's.
I love the work you've done on these Blackbuck, any more on the way?
I love the work you've done on these Blackbuck, any more on the way?
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Re: (Notional) Super Type 23
also, note that all parts shown here but the propeller were also on miho's drawing. if blackbuck must credit anyone over this, it should be miho, and then bezo should credit miho as well. it is as simple of that, so I think case closed (if it wasn't already before)
Drawings are credited with J.Scholtens
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Re: (Notional) Super Type 23
Christ, I wish I'd never have started these things.
ETA: If you're so worked up about it here are my WIP sheets for the damned thing. I'm sure given the chance somebody will have the audacity to say I stole the WIPs too...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/942 ... 23/T23.PNG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/942 ... 23_WIP.PNG
eswube wrote:Interesting concept. And of course great drawing.
Cheers for the kind words!Trojan wrote:Fantastic drawing as always.
Easy enough if people are that concernedColosseum wrote:You should pull both drawings into Paint and compare if you think they are the same. If there's a legitimate reason for concern we can address it then.bezobrazov wrote:Well, whatever, ace. I don't believe it, but I don't give a farthing about it anymore. So be it then.
Honestly, I'm not sure eitherRP1 wrote:Not sure if serious?
You know the radar and RESM are on the parts sheet, right?
RP1
Possibly. Depending on what I can think of, there should be a couple of AU ones to come too.Rowdy36 wrote:Having just checked it myself there is no way that the drawings are related in any way, other than the fact that they are both Type 23's or variants of Type 23's.
I love the work you've done on these Blackbuck, any more on the way?
^ This.acelanceloet wrote:also, note that all parts shown here but the propeller were also on miho's drawing. if blackbuck must credit anyone over this, it should be miho, and then bezo should credit miho as well. it is as simple of that, so I think case closed (if it wasn't already before)
ETA: If you're so worked up about it here are my WIP sheets for the damned thing. I'm sure given the chance somebody will have the audacity to say I stole the WIPs too...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/942 ... 23/T23.PNG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/942 ... 23_WIP.PNG
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Re: (Notional) Super Type 23
Excellent work.
rest of you, at least some of you. Cry me a river, cry baby!!
rest of you, at least some of you. Cry me a river, cry baby!!
Revised Off-Spins (New England Navy)
Updates to a previous theme...
A trio of offshoots from the original path. No US systems (that I know of) on there once again.
Firstly
Local area defence AA boats equipped with Aster 15 and MICA-VL (soon to be supplanted by Sea Ceptor, freeing up space for a better Aster load)
Secondly
General-purpose and ASW boats equipped with a towed array and 127mm for NGFS. These feature a proper full width hangar for two Lynx or a single Merlin. The enlarged hangar block and enclosed quarter deck in theory allow for a greater amount of surge accommodation for raiding parties / security forces
Thirdly
A "minimum LCS" based in part off of the remarks of RP1 earlier in the thread. Similar to the GP vessels but with the capability of operating unmanned assets (in this case UAV and USVs) Seastreak replaces the Millennium for nothing more than cool factor really, that and in theory it can be used in the SSM role to support Spike-NLOS on small skiffs and the like.
Footnote
When they finally get Sea Ceptor they'll sport a datalink antenna at either end roughly where the original directors on a T23 would be. More possibly to come on these as the AU evolves...
~Mark.
A trio of offshoots from the original path. No US systems (that I know of) on there once again.
Firstly
Local area defence AA boats equipped with Aster 15 and MICA-VL (soon to be supplanted by Sea Ceptor, freeing up space for a better Aster load)
Secondly
General-purpose and ASW boats equipped with a towed array and 127mm for NGFS. These feature a proper full width hangar for two Lynx or a single Merlin. The enlarged hangar block and enclosed quarter deck in theory allow for a greater amount of surge accommodation for raiding parties / security forces
Thirdly
A "minimum LCS" based in part off of the remarks of RP1 earlier in the thread. Similar to the GP vessels but with the capability of operating unmanned assets (in this case UAV and USVs) Seastreak replaces the Millennium for nothing more than cool factor really, that and in theory it can be used in the SSM role to support Spike-NLOS on small skiffs and the like.
Footnote
When they finally get Sea Ceptor they'll sport a datalink antenna at either end roughly where the original directors on a T23 would be. More possibly to come on these as the AU evolves...
~Mark.
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Re: (Notional) Super Type 23
I woke up pondering how a more heavily LO considered Super Duke would possibly look and ended up with the following... Namely a halfway house between the Type 23 and Type 26.
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Re: (Notional) Super Type 23
I like. I like a lot..........
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Very interesting! Great work!
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Thanks for the kind words gents.
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Re: (Notional) Super Type 23
Very good work with Type23, that frigate really worth the money cost.
A variant with Sea Wolf/ Sea Eagle for RN AU perhaps?
A variant with Sea Wolf/ Sea Eagle for RN AU perhaps?