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Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 18th, 2015, 9:24 pm
by Krakatoa
I seem to be the only person with any ideas or time to do some justice to Smurfs challenge. Come on guys there are hundreds of design types from Japan to Italy that would suit, British and US designs by the truckload. Get drawing/kitbashing.

My next one is from Holland on the same lines as the previous two small heavy cruisers. Difference in this third design is the placement of the main and secondary armaments.

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Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 18th, 2015, 9:25 pm
by Blackbuck
Oh. I have an idea but It's not in a state to post yet.

Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 18th, 2015, 11:54 pm
by JSB
Well RL has killed my Ship-bucketing (for a few months more at least) but here a cheap cut of a IJN go at it,

4x2 8'
4x2 5'
2x4 21" TT
AA as fitted by customer.
delivery date never :o :roll:
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Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 12:29 am
by Krakatoa
That's a powerful looking cruiser JSB. It would certainly outclass any of the South American cruisers that were there in real life. You are quite right to put 21" torpedoes on it as the 24" was certainly on the most secret list.

Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 12:31 am
by Biancini1995
I loved the IJN entry but I like 5 turrets design XD

Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 9:09 am
by waritem
Krakatoa wrote:My next one is from Holland
A joint venture with spain?
(structure and funnel from spanish cruiser studies)

Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 10:12 am
by BB1987
JSB, do you allow me just a small quibble?
Those are the triple 5.5inch (155mm) guns the Mogamis originally sported when built as Light Cruisers, you can grab the twin 8-inchers on the 1940 Mogami or in the IJN parts sheet. :)

Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 10:31 am
by Krakatoa
Waritem, it could well be a joint project. The original ship I kitbashed came off a fourteen ship set of drawings by Alvama labelled "Anglo - Dutch cruiser forces by Kara Alvama" so I figured it was probably of Dutch origin. The 8" I made from Dutch twin 6" enlarged to size. The twin 4.7" (these are pure Dutch and are in no way related to the LM ones) came off the later Dutch Battleship projects.

Those drawings can be found here ( http://kara-alvama.deviantart.com/art/A ... -201533109 ) if anyone else wants some 'Dutch' inspiration for their ship for this challenge.

Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 11:50 am
by JSB
BB1987 wrote:JSB, do you allow me just a small quibble?
Those are the triple 5.5inch (155mm) guns the Mogamis originally sported when built as Light Cruisers, you can grab the twin 8-inchers on the 1940 Mogami or in the IJN parts sheet. :)
:o :o :o :(

Kitbashing at 11:54 pm may not work that well :lol:

Re: Cruisers for South America

Posted: March 19th, 2015, 11:53 am
by Krakatoa
JSB: 12 x 6.1" is still a reasonably strong armament. The Japanese 6.1 had a pretty good range. That ship would still probably have blown away Argentinas pair.


My last converted light cruiser is based on the KM Nurnberg which was commissioned in 1935. The design has to be reworked to take the twin 8". Lot more breadth, and depth required of the hull. Having more tonnage to play with means the armour can be much more comprehensive.

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