Shipbucket

Again, a belated thank you to Hood...

Either way, time for something new. Or rather, older. A pair of WW1-era designs; a mini-dreadnought, and a light cruiser to keep it company on lonely night patrools. The idea for the dreadnought was essentially "Let's take a Sverige-class ship, lengthen her, armour her up properly, and drop in another main turret between the funnels and aft mast". All armament is based of Swedish artillery of the time, though I added my own flare to them.
Anyhow, here's the dreadnought:

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1912

Displacement:
12 708 t light; 13 455 t standard; 14 858 t normal; 15 980 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(549,87 ft / 547,90 ft) x 75,79 ft x (21,82 / 23,14 ft)
(167,60 m / 167,00 m) x 23,10 m x (6,65 / 7,05 m)

Armament:
6 - 11,14" / 283 mm 45,0 cal guns - 697,45lbs / 316,36kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, evenly spread
8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 113,45lbs / 51,46kg shells, 240 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1912 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
5 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
1 raised mount
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 183 lbs / 2 351 kg
Main Torpedoes
4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m torpedoes - 0,972 t each, 3,888 t total
submerged side tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8,66" / 220 mm 275,59 ft / 84,00 m 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 249,34 ft / 76,00 m 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
22,97 ft / 7,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 255,91 ft / 78,00 m 5,91 ft / 1,80 m
Main Belt covers 77 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
0,98" / 25 mm 285,43 ft / 87,00 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 69,23 ft / 21,10 m

- Hull void:
0,00" / 0 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 0,00 ft / 0,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8,66" / 220 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 8,66" / 220 mm
2nd: 4,92" / 125 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 3,94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0,20" / 5 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 8,66" / 220 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 32 344 shp / 24 128 Kw = 23,00 kts
Range 4 000nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 524 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
672 - 874

Cost:
£1,134 million / $4,536 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 227 tons, 8,3 %
- Guns: 1 219 tons, 8,2 %
- Weapons: 8 tons, 0,1 %
Armour: 4 554 tons, 30,7 %
- Belts: 2 002 tons, 13,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 171 tons, 1,1 %
- Armament: 1 066 tons, 7,2 %
- Armour Deck: 1 204 tons, 8,1 %
- Conning Tower: 113 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 1 419 tons, 9,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 188 tons, 34,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 150 tons, 14,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 320 tons, 2,2 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- Hull void weights: 40 tons
- Hull above water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 80 tons
- Above deck: 120 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
29 149 lbs / 13 222 Kg = 42,1 x 11,1 " / 283 mm shells or 6,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,32
Metacentric height 5,4 ft / 1,6 m
Roll period: 13,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,64

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,574 / 0,582
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,41 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 30
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -3,00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 25,92 ft / 7,90 m, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 21,82 ft / 6,65 m, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m
- Aft deck: 35,00 %, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m, 20,51 ft / 6,25 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 20,51 ft / 6,25 m, 21,82 ft / 6,65 m
- Average freeboard: 21,62 ft / 6,59 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 173,4 %
Waterplane Area: 29 639 Square feet or 2 754 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 134 lbs/sq ft or 653 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,94
- Longitudinal: 1,69
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
And the light cruiser:

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1916

Displacement:
4 170 t light; 4 359 t standard; 4 823 t normal; 5 194 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(465,42 ft / 462,60 ft) x 49,87 ft x (13,78 / 14,60 ft)
(141,86 m / 141,00 m) x 15,20 m x (4,20 / 4,45 m)

Armament:
3 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 113,45lbs / 51,46kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1916 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 113,45lbs / 51,46kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1916 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1916 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
2 raised mounts
3 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1916 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
1 x Single mount on centreline amidships (forward deck)
1 raised mount
Weight of broadside 632 lbs / 287 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 255,91 ft / 78,00 m 9,68 ft / 2,95 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Hull void:
0,00" / 0 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 0,00 ft / 0,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,57" / 40 mm 0,59" / 15 mm 0,98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0,59" / 15 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 1,97" / 50 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 47 445 shp / 35 394 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 4 250nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 835 tons

Complement:
289 - 376

Cost:
£0,727 million / $2,908 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 156 tons, 3,2 %
- Guns: 156 tons, 3,2 %
Armour: 248 tons, 5,1 %
- Belts: 104 tons, 2,1 %
- Armament: 19 tons, 0,4 %
- Armour Deck: 113 tons, 2,4 %
- Conning Tower: 12 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 1 768 tons, 36,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 778 tons, 36,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 653 tons, 13,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 220 tons, 4,6 %
- Hull below water: 30 tons
- Hull void weights: 30 tons
- Hull above water: 30 tons
- On freeboard deck: 30 tons
- Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 153 lbs / 1 884 Kg = 38,8 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,35
Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m
Roll period: 12,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,531 / 0,540
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,28 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21,51 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m
- Aft deck: 35,00 %, 12,80 ft / 3,90 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m
- Average freeboard: 17,21 ft / 5,25 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 131,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 173,0 %
Waterplane Area: 15 816 Square feet or 1 469 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 370 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,49
- Overall: 1,00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room

great ships

Nice ones! Is that on the CL and ice-breaking bow?
And I'm somewhat intrigued by the floating deckhouse above n°1 maing gun turret, might be a great way to save deck space Joking aside what is it?

such a nice pair. The little dreadnougth reminds some of my own pre-shipbucket AU droodles from bygone days.

Biancini1995 wrote:great ships

Thanks!

BB1987 wrote:Nice ones! Is that on the CL and ice-breaking bow?
And I'm somewhat intrigued by the floating deckhouse above n°1 maing gun turret, might be a great way to save deck space Joking aside what is it?

Thank you! It is indeed an icebreaker bow.
Bugger, I thought I had deleted that... Since you asked, it's my colour pallete. Whenever I draw a ship, I paste one of them on each end of the superstructure, for convenient access whenever I start colouring or adding details to the ship. It would seem I forgot to delete one of them on this one. It's gone now though.

Gollevainen wrote:such a nice pair. The little dreadnougth reminds some of my own pre-shipbucket AU droodles from bygone days.

Thank you! It's fun hearing other people have thought of similar concepts.

KHT wrote:Bugger, I thought I had deleted that... Since you asked, it's my colour pallete. Whenever I draw a ship, I paste one of them on each end of the superstructure, for convenient access whenever I start colouring or adding details to the ship. It would seem I forgot to delete one of them on this one. It's gone now though.

No worries mate, similar things happened to me too, sometimes we got so cenetered around some particular details that we forgot about other ones. Moreover, your technique of pasting parts of other of your ship superstructures whenever yous tart a new drawing is exactly the same thing I do too

Very nice designs. Great to see more of Your projects.

eswube wrote:Very nice designs. Great to see more of Your projects.

Thanks! Glad you like them!

I agree, both of these are very nice looking designs and interesting concepts.

Hood wrote:I agree, both of these are very nice looking designs and interesting concepts.

Thank you very much!