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Re: Project Sail

#151 Post by heuhen »

Nice work. except the shading that dosn't fit the shading rules that many people have been working on. I am talking about the hull. Now we either do an simple shading of the hull or we shade how the hull looks in the real world. your's well... it's a ship not a bathtub. a shading represent 45 degrees in the hull.. and we never use to type of shading for shading a hull. all those Shipbucket rule is about making it simple but good at the same time so other people that want to modifie it can do it easy.


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Re: Project Sail

#152 Post by CraigH »

Heuhen,

Actually, I used the buttock lines from the hull plans to guide the shading. I found using the "45 degree rule" was giving me some weird shapes, particularly at the bow end...so that's when I tried the technique I used.
Note: the original plans may no longer exist, the drawings I used were taken off a surviving half model of the Niagara.

Plan "B" was to take the original hull plans and completely re-draft them to create very accurate line-work for guiding SB's simplified shading style. Overkill for a 2D drawing and not good time utilization.

Plan "C" I can render the plans in 3D with accurate lighting, then convert the image to 2D. That's beyond the scope of SB and a waste of time in a small scale.

Plan "D" would be to build a half model, photograph it with SB compliant lighting sources. Digitally trace over it for a SB drawing. Not going to happen.

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#153 Post by eswube »

Wow! Fantastic work!
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#154 Post by acelanceloet »

CraigH wrote:Heuhen,

Actually, I used the buttock lines from the hull plans to guide the shading. I found using the "45 degree rule" was giving me some weird shapes, particularly at the bow end...so that's when I tried the technique I used.
Note: the original plans may no longer exist, the drawings I used were taken off a surviving half model of the Niagara.

Plan "B" was to take the original hull plans and completely re-draft them to create very accurate line-work for guiding SB's simplified shading style. Overkill for a 2D drawing and not good time utilization.

Plan "C" I can render the plans in 3D with accurate lighting, then convert the image to 2D. That's beyond the scope of SB and a waste of time in a small scale.

Plan "D" would be to build a half model, photograph it with SB compliant lighting sources. Digitally trace over it for a SB drawing. Not going to happen.

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well, the bow end is basically all that is wrong with it, I think. I am not that familiar with sailing ship shapes.
if you could PM me the lineplan, maybe? I will try to help you out then by using the technique I use when I have an lineplan available.
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Re: Project Sail

#155 Post by CraigH »

Revised the USS Niagara drawings on the previous page (page 15).

Here is one of the "90 Day Gun-Boats" from the American Civil War:
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USA, USS Ticonderoga (1862)
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USA, USS Ticonderoga (1864)
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USA, USS Ticonderoga (1865-1869)

I suspect there was an additional rebuild around 1869-70. Also armament did change over time.

Launched 1862
Sold: 1887

Type: Screw sloop-of-war
Displacement: 2,526 long tons (2,567 t)
Length: 237 ft (72 m)
Beam: 38 ft 2 in (11.63 m)
Draft: 17 ft 6 in (5.33 m)
Speed: 11 knots (20 km/h; 13 mph)
Armament: 1 × 150-pounder Parrott rifle
1 × 50-pounder Dahlgren rifle
6 × 9 in (230 mm) Dahlgren smoothbores
2 × 24-pounder howitzers
2 × 12-pounder rifles
2 × heavy 12-pounder smoothbores

It's sister ship was the USS Lackawanna.

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Re: Project Sail

#156 Post by Rodondo »

Damn nice Craig!
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#157 Post by eswube »

Great work!
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#158 Post by Charybdis »

Very nice work, indeed. It's like a spot-the-difference game.
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#159 Post by darthpanda »

Loving it!
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Re: Project Sail

#160 Post by Wolfman »

Nice work.
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