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Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 14th, 2014, 9:51 pm
by JSB
To me it looks like some of the slow fat costal gunboats.
Say 1910s-1930s, with what armament ? (I would move the bridge back and put on 2 twin turrets say 6-8 inch ? and a few AA/DP guns 4/3 inch ?),
Looks nice, kind of like the top one in this thread viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5366
With that bow is she an ice breaker ? and what has she got for guns ?
JSB

Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 14th, 2014, 10:08 pm
by Rodondo
Doesn't look like an icebreaking bow, stem under the water line is too vertical for effective icebreaking

Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 14th, 2014, 11:00 pm
by Cei
So I think it's purpose is a slow fat coastal gunboat XD

would this position for the gun work?

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Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 14th, 2014, 11:05 pm
by Rodondo
Might want to either reduce the drop of the bow or introduce some sheer, otherwise you'll have trouble with shipping quite a lot of green-water forwards of the turret

Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 15th, 2014, 6:51 am
by JSB
You probably want the turret in the dip (so its as low as possible as its very heavy) with a higher bow/superstructure. as (although it depends on how big the turret trunks are as well as some RN monitors had raises up turrets http://www.shipbucket.com/images.php?di ... oberts.png)

If you look at the Thai gunboat Thonburi then you will see it used standard IJN 8 inch twins (you could use somebody else's turrets depending who its for ? from RN/USN parts sheets ;) ).
JSb

Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 15th, 2014, 7:17 am
by heuhen
Rodondo wrote:Might want to either reduce the drop of the bow or introduce some sheer, otherwise you'll have trouble with shipping quite a lot of green-water forwards of the turret
that's not a problem, look at those Norwegian coastal defense ships. They had very low sheer, but was still very good sea boats. Even better than the much bigger Swedish one's!

Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 15th, 2014, 9:43 am
by Cei
Hmm if its a cut "shear" then this

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But if its a nautical "sheer" then this

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Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 15th, 2014, 9:47 am
by acelanceloet
no idea what you are talking about with cut and nautical sheers.

Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 16th, 2014, 3:26 am
by Cei
Here is my first attempt at a real vessel, the Italian Monitor Alfredo Cappellini 1915-17.

Famous for saving the British Navy from a naval disaster when the Imperial German Fleet was ordered to pull back to deal with a strange river barge. She slipped into Kiel struggling to push 4 supply barges, before shelling the harbor and destroying an unconfirmed number of enemy vessels, and the Kaiser himself. She capsized shortly after with all hands. German Officals were surprised to note that all four of the barges were docked and being offloaded as the monitor slowly puttered around the harbor.

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Re: Cei's Naval Yard

Posted: June 17th, 2014, 11:51 am
by Cei
Attempt at the German Monitor Biber. A retrofit of the captured Italian Monitor FaĆ  di Bruno.

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