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Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 17th, 2014, 11:36 pm
by KHT
A heavy cruiser, where I've shamelessly plundered Swedish CDS and American cruisers and Aircraft carriers for inspiration(infact the conning tower was mostly a copy-paste-crop work of an older drawing of mine, but I really felt it fit well).
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Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1938

Displacement:
10 837 t light; 11 389 t standard; 12 111 t normal; 12 688 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(632,37 ft / 620,08 ft) x 62,66 ft x (20,51 / 21,25 ft)
(192,75 m / 189,00 m) x 19,10 m x (6,25 / 6,48 m)

Armament:
9 - 8,62" / 219 mm 47,0 cal guns - 333,36lbs / 151,21kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1938 Model
3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
1 raised mount aft - superfiring
12 - 4,29" / 109 mm 50,0 cal guns - 41,82lbs / 18,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
8 - 1,42" / 36,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 1,57lbs / 0,71kg shells, 1 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
3 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
2 x Single mounts layout not set
2 raised mounts
10 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 5 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
1 x Twin mount on centreline amidships (forward deck)
1 raised mount
8 x Single mounts layout not set
4 double raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 520 lbs / 1 597 kg
Main Torpedoes
6 - 23,0" / 583 mm, 24,93 ft / 7,60 m torpedoes - 1,954 t each, 11,722 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 6,69" / 170 mm 374,02 ft / 114,00 m 10,99 ft / 3,35 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length
Main Belt inclined 11,00 degrees (positive = in)

- Hull void:
0,00" / 0 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 0,00 ft / 0,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 2,76" / 70 mm 5,91" / 150 mm
2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -

- Box over machinery & magazines:
3,15" / 80 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 5,91" / 150 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 77 608 shp / 57 896 Kw = 31,00 kts
Range 5 000nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 299 tons

Complement:
576 - 750

Cost:
£5,630 million / $22,519 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 988 tons, 8,2 %
- Guns: 965 tons, 8,0 %
- Weapons: 23 tons, 0,2 %
Armour: 2 896 tons, 23,9 %
- Belts: 1 148 tons, 9,5 %
- Armament: 538 tons, 4,4 %
- Armour Deck: 1 143 tons, 9,4 %
- Conning Tower: 67 tons, 0,6 %
Machinery: 2 125 tons, 17,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 508 tons, 37,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 274 tons, 10,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 320 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- Hull void weights: 50 tons
- Hull above water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 150 tons
- Above deck: 40 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
16 901 lbs / 7 666 Kg = 52,7 x 8,6 " / 219 mm shells or 1,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m
Roll period: 15,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 49 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,77
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a straight bulbous bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,532 / 0,538
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,90 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,68 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 18,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 27,72 ft / 8,45 m, 24,44 ft / 7,45 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 24,44 ft / 7,45 m, 23,46 ft / 7,15 m
- Aft deck: 35,00 %, 14,93 ft / 4,55 m, 15,26 ft / 4,65 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 15,26 ft / 4,65 m, 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Average freeboard: 20,03 ft / 6,11 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 169,4 %
Waterplane Area: 27 316 Square feet or 2 538 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 589 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,32
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
I'm surprised I managed to squeeze in so much at such a modest displacement. Ah well, I'm not complaining.


Also, since I forgot to reply to the last comments:
Thanks, Hood, for the compliments. In fact I went for a German/French look, though I can see what you mean...

Deno: While the ideas are intriguing, I really don't feel any of the trade-offs are worth it.

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 12:57 am
by denodon
Looking good. That Lex style funnel is certainly a good identifier for the ship. Light AA seems a bit light even for 1938 though when compared to some other larger cruisers of the period.

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 8:03 am
by eswube
Very interesting design. :)

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 8:38 am
by Gollevainen
Really intresting indeed, if bit ugly to my eye, but thats naturally matter of taste issue 8-)
Only one critic, don't use the black-darkgrey two-pixel combination to present the gunbarrels, but instead use two black pixels. (the only instance this is allowed in the style.)

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 10:27 am
by KHT
Thanks all! :D

Deno: I have a hard time finding proper space for lots of light AA(that is, find space where it's not in the way for another gun), but I'll look into it.

Golly: I've done as you asked, but I can't help but feel the drawing looses some feeling with those double black lines.

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 10:40 am
by eltf177
I agree, that funnel is butt ugly. But it is rather unique and if it does the job then looks really don't matter...

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 10:58 am
by Gollevainen
Golly: I've done as you asked, but I can't help but feel the drawing looses some feeling with those double black lines.
Ah? In SB that particular way has been "THE" way since the begining ;) Im sure most of feels the exact opposite with the blackline/dark grey line hazzle...

The reason why that heresy keeps appearing from time to time is propably becouse back in some 8 years ago, when we still used mostly GiF. files and windows XP's and the XP's paint was not always that perfect on transfering BMP files into gif, and sometimes odd pixelation errors occured, and one of those was that large blocks of black color begun to show shades of dark grey among them. usually this was for the barrels, since they were the only ones with two alligning black lines. Then for some reasons some drawing got uploaded to the old photobucket account with those errors onboard, and some geezers thougth it was how the barrels were supposed to be drawn and thus they've appeared from time to time in various drawings by various artists due the course of SB's history. Everytime we think we've finaly managed to cut them out completely and educate people of the horrors, some new hero appear with his gunbarrels corrupted, intentionally.

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 12:16 pm
by KHT
Golly: I understand perfectly why we keep to double black lines, and I'm not questioning that. I'm just saying, I don't like them(neither am I obliged to :P ), and that's why I used the black line-dark gray line "herasy". I don't think I've seen anyone use it before.
No, I'm not going to start a debate on the issue. ;) I've always considered my relatively minor "breakings" of the shipbucket style to been fairly harmless, especially since it's kept to the AU and PD sections, so they'll never reach the archive. And since nobody has complained until now(it's been two years or something), I didn't think it really mattered. I still don't like the double black line, but I will follow the rules regarding them in the future.
Thanks for the history lesson though. ;)

Elft177: Thanks! I didn't use the funnel for its sexyness, so it's allright. ;)

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 18th, 2014, 12:47 pm
by Gollevainen
Yea, there are things in SB style that irks someone's nerve from time to time. Black pixels are usually culprints in most of the cases :)

Re: KHT Projects

Posted: April 19th, 2014, 9:05 am
by Hood
I like this cruiser.
It's slightly oddball, but not enough to seriously impair the beauty of this ship. Nice work!