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Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: December 3rd, 2012, 6:45 pm
by Portsmouth Bill
Very interesting, and well rendered; and not a design I've come across before. :)

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: December 13th, 2012, 12:41 am
by Vice Admiral MTG
Nice post WW-2 design, but are the two turrets use the quadruple design in order to keep the maximum firepower of 8x2 main guns? I like to see if the main armament would be 18"/50 guns instead of 16"/55.

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: December 13th, 2012, 2:24 am
by klagldsf
Not necessarily; like I said, "final" plans for HMS Lion completely deleted the aft main turret. A drawing of it is in the "What-If" database.

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: June 4th, 2013, 9:17 pm
by William Walker
Yes very interesting. It wasn't really a battleships as the turrets were built for shorebombardment and it was going to have less armour protection. It is what I would call a Mobile Artillary Ship. I have plans to build a small version for the currently Royal Navy as class of two ships based on the Invincible class hull with 2 turrents for 4 13 inch heavy guns with new shells for shore bombardment. However in my "Dream Navy" I have a ships just like this but with modern systems, helicopters, VLS and so on.

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: June 5th, 2013, 7:16 pm
by jabba
Nice.

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: January 20th, 2015, 2:56 am
by Sumeragi
Can someone tell me the various electronics that are on this ship? I'm interested in the development of postwar British radar and electronics.

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: January 20th, 2015, 1:31 pm
by Hood
No problem:

Main directors: Type 274 (the later single dual-array version)
Secondary directors: US Mk 37 upgraded with Type 275 (as was done to Vanguard)
AA directors: Close-Range Blind-Firing (CRBF) directors (the number of the radar it contains escapes my memory at the moment)
Mainmast: Type 280 air-search radar
Foremast: not sure what the thingy is on top (I cut it from Bombhead's Vanguard I think), some kind of HF/DF array? Lower down on the platform is Type 277P height-finding/ surface search radar.

Please note the RN Radars part sheet now has updated versions of all of these parts.
These are all late-war items of equipment, CRBF just early post-war.

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: January 20th, 2015, 2:05 pm
by Sumeragi
Interesting, so the British put the main director below the secondary, while the US did the opposite?

Know what kind of differences that makes?

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: January 20th, 2015, 2:57 pm
by JSB
I think its maybe just a carry on from the RN planing to fight at closer ranges pre radar (so lower is ok) and then not changing/swaping them round later as that would cost money ? (not sure, that or saving weight if the main is heavier ?)

JSB

Re: Royal Navy Battleship 'X' 1945

Posted: January 21st, 2015, 9:06 am
by Hood
That seems to have been standard practice since the 1920s, especially with the introduction of the tower superstructure.

I think the reason is twofold; better unobstructed arcs for the HACS or HA director of whatever type) and to lessen the topweight as the director towers were quite heavy two-storey structures.