A 902 Van Kinsbergen (Dutch Navel Traniee Vessel)

[Gollevainen]

The bridge wing shield just continues from the actuall forcastle hull, so drawing a black line to seperate them in the drawing makes no sense.
Also, the ship isent small enough to justify to use such ugly way of drawing the windovs, so use the larger model for them. Makes the drawing look more shipbucketish.
Also, you could add some more details to the bridge roof and to the mast structures, add proper hull shading and present the (clearly visible in the pic) waterline black (use dark grey) line to seperate the whitness from the red.

[acelanceloet]

The bridge wing shield just continues from the actuall forcastle hull, so drawing a black line to seperate them in the drawing makes no sense.
Also, the ship isent small enough to justify to use such ugly way of drawing the windovs, so use the larger model for them. Makes the drawing look more shipbucketish.
Also, you could add some more details to the bridge roof and to the mast structures, add proper hull shading and present the (clearly visible in the pic) waterline black (use dark grey) line to seperate the whitness from the red.

about waterline you are right. the windows... which ones do you mean, the ones on the bridge or the ones on the deckhouse?
about the bridge roof you are right, I missed a few......but not that much, only 2 lamps and one 'radar sphere' but the forecastle is not connected to the bridge wing. it's looking like that, but I have the original drawing and it just isn't. I missed a line there though, so will fix that.
also... the colour isn't as dark as shown on mitch's pic, but I will make it a tad darker indeed.
thanks for the comments.

[Gollevainen]

I ment the windovs in the hull..

[acelanceloet]

I ment the windovs in the hull..

ah those.... well I wasn't content about the windows in the structures midships as well....so I fixed those. but do you mean the round ones? I hope not, those are just simple round ones, and those are really small. I can draw them bigger, but they are not that big, so that would be wrong.

changed a few parts already. I really don't like the 'yellowish' parts now, but this is a tad darker.....

[Gollevainen]

The round ones indeed. The way you present it is actually wrong by the orginal standard. We only allowed them in really tiny boats, like <20m MTBs or such.

[acelanceloet]

all fixes made. any further comments?

[Gollevainen]

the black line that seperates the bridge wing shielding from the hulll...change that to either darker brown....

....then again, Now as I look at it, your hull and superstructure are in same shade? First step is to color the hull under the main deck bit darker shade (leave the bulwarks to the same shade as superstructure, just dont draw anything darker between them. THEN use the darker shade to seperate the bridge wing's shield from the bulwarks...

In general, 1st rule about shipbucket style has always been that the hull is darker than the upper works. No exceptions. This is in generall where the whole style bases itself.

After thats done, then we can start discuss why isen't the underwater hull shaded at all...

[acelanceloet]

the black line that seperates the bridge wing shielding from the hulll...change that to either darker brown....

....then again, Now as I look at it, your hull and superstructure are in same shade? First step is to color the hull under the main deck bit darker shade (leave the bulwarks to the same shade as superstructure, just dont draw anything darker between them. THEN use the darker shade to seperate the bridge wing's shield from the bulwarks...

In general, 1st rule about shipbucket style has always been that the hull is darker than the upper works. No exceptions. This is in generall where the whole style bases itself.

superstructure colour will be made a bit darker,you are right about that..... but the bridge wing is NOT connected to the hull, so I will NOT change that.

[Gollevainen]

I stand corrected. The other picture from opposite side showed it attached to the hull...

[acelanceloet]

now I should have fixed everything......