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Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 5th, 2010, 11:25 pm
by Thiel
It's funny to see just how differently people see the same hull.
The moment I saw that long free deck and especially the towing gear, my brain just screamed OPV.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 10:45 am
by Blackbuck
Wow there's a lot of artefacts left in there. Moving stuff around the template is like something attracting dust :\
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 11:15 am
by TurretHead
Thiel wrote:It's funny to see just how differently people see the same hull.
The moment I saw that long free deck and especially the towing gear, my brain just screamed OPV.
I saw: Gunboat!
Still a WIP and also using my original unfinished drawing of the Vosper 98m light frigate as a base.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 11:35 am
by Novice
TurretHead
I don't believe there is enough hull-depth aft for that gun of yours. Also your radar mast seems to have too much for a ship of this size and function.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 12:06 pm
by Blackbuck
I concur. Personally I'd go for a 76 in the A position, a 40mm twin or missile CIWS in the B position and either another twin forty or smaller calibre (20mm etc) aft of the funnel.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 12:49 pm
by TurretHead
Novice wrote:I don't believe there is enough hull-depth aft for that gun of yours. Also your radar mast seems to have too much for a ship of this size and function.
If you look at the design of most modern naval guns they only require a single deck level under the turret. In this space is a carousel in which shells are loaded. The bulk of rounds are stored elsewhere and carried by hand to this carousel. There is a deck level aft in this design. The original design it is based on (Vosper Mk 18) has a very bulky towed sonar array in this position. So there is plenty of room at the rear.
The radar mast is from the original Anzac class radar upgrade drawing. It is designed to be lightweight and cheap. Their webpage says this technology is scaleable from "corvette to cruiser". This boat is a 2000 ton “light frigate” and not just a little patrol boat. My version is designed to be a littoral gunboat capable of defending itself, maritime interdiction against coastal traffic and naval gunfire support.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 1:20 pm
by Blackbuck
My humble and rather pathetic contribution to this
Finished in standard ISE naval colours, Battleship & Ash Grey.
Armament is as follows; 1x 57mm Bofors Mk2, 1x SVTT bank either side of the main superstructure, 1x sextuple Mistral launcher (as fitted to Rauma type missile boats) 6x Penguin AShMs, 4x M2 12.7mm HMGs, 1 or 2 Rheinmetall RH-202s in pedestal mounts aft of the mast and finally a bank of depth charges on the stern (probably will and or would be discarded but we'll see).
Sensors are much the same as my Corvette in the Atlantia AU thread, EO gunlayer for the 57mm, EO for passive search and adverse weather. Air and surface search radar as the Corvette too.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 4:16 pm
by Canadai
Actually looks really good.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 6th, 2010, 11:54 pm
by TurretHead
I think its good too. I like the idea of having the main gun on the forward deck.
Re: 98m Basic design
Posted: September 7th, 2010, 4:27 am
by erik_t
TurretHead wrote:Novice wrote:I don't believe there is enough hull-depth aft for that gun of yours. Also your radar mast seems to have too much for a ship of this size and function.
If you look at the design of most modern naval guns they only require a single deck level under the turret. In this space is a carousel in which shells are loaded. The bulk of rounds are stored elsewhere and carried by hand to this carousel. There is a deck level aft in this design. The original design it is based on (Vosper Mk 18) has a very bulky towed sonar array in this position. So there is plenty of room at the rear.
The radar mast is from the original Anzac class radar upgrade drawing. It is designed to be lightweight and cheap. Their webpage says this technology is scaleable from "corvette to cruiser". This boat is a 2000 ton “light frigate” and not just a little patrol boat. My version is designed to be a littoral gunboat capable of defending itself, maritime interdiction against coastal traffic and naval gunfire support.
I struggle mightily to think of what a double-ended gunboat could do that a single-ended one could not. Particularly since a single LGB would be the end of this critter.