Prototype Weapon

Discuss anything related to Shipbucket here.

Moderator: Community Manager

Post Reply
Message
Author
Cruel2BEkind
Posts: 272
Joined: May 12th, 2012, 12:34 am
Location: Phoenix,Arizona

Prototype Weapon

#1 Post by Cruel2BEkind »

Can 'Metal Storm' Technology be used in small 100-130mm cannons used on ships?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFjGbOyd2ek
Coming soon....
-Carrier Submarine?
-Missile Interceptor
User avatar
heuhen
Posts: 9104
Joined: December 15th, 2010, 10:13 pm
Location: Behind you, looking at you with my mustache!

Re: Prototype Weapon

#2 Post by heuhen »

well yes, but i think it will have a disadvantage on big caliber cannons. but at smaller caliber self defenc weapons they can be a god weapon.

But on a naval vessel I think this weapon technology can possibly be used in a type of a ASW mortar system.
TimothyC
Posts: 3765
Joined: July 27th, 2010, 3:06 am
Contact:

Re: Prototype Weapon

#3 Post by TimothyC »

Metal Storm stuff just doesn't make sense in the real world. It's main advantage is the high instantaneous rate of fire, but for sustained fire you need to have to start accounting for barrel swap times, which are not going to be pretty. With AAA the main thing you want to do is throw larger rounds down range, not more smaller rounds. If you want a really advanced gun and you are not including AAA as a main mission, I'd look at something like VGAS (Vertical Gun for Advanced Ships).

The biggest knock against Metal Storm is that the largest gun they've had a contract for is functionally a 5 round shotgun. It's not something to inspire confidence.
πŒπ€π“π‡ππ„π“- 𝑻𝒐 π‘ͺπ’π’ˆπ’Šπ’•π’‚π’•π’† 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝑺𝒐𝒍𝒗𝒆
User avatar
klagldsf
Posts: 2765
Joined: July 28th, 2010, 4:14 pm

Re: Prototype Weapon

#4 Post by klagldsf »

Cruel2BEkind wrote:Can 'Metal Storm' Technology be used in small 100-130mm cannons used on ships?
Sure it can - but in addition to what Tim said, the RoF advantage Metal Storm has over more conventional, high-RoF guns (like Mk 45) all but disappears at that scale. Especially when you factor in any weight penalty, assuming you're just scaling up current Metal Storm models.

That's not to say that the idea of an "electric gun" is dumbfounded - in fact that's the idea behind a railgun and coilgun (or even better, a multi-stage coilgun). What Metal Storm really does is add unnecessary complication to those ideas, basically making a Nordenfelt coil-gun.

Why? Because it's cool, probably.
Colosseum
Posts: 5218
Joined: July 26th, 2010, 9:38 pm
Location: Austin, TX
Contact:

Re: Prototype Weapon

#5 Post by Colosseum »

This is the only rapid-firing gun you need on a ship.

Image
User avatar
heuhen
Posts: 9104
Joined: December 15th, 2010, 10:13 pm
Location: Behind you, looking at you with my mustache!

Re: Prototype Weapon

#6 Post by heuhen »

silly you, the red army with nuclear missiles is all you need.
Master Chief Brown
Posts: 19
Joined: October 16th, 2012, 11:23 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Prototype Weapon

#7 Post by Master Chief Brown »

This might have potential on the naval scene. Naval ships could use it to repel possible boarders: a scenario unlikely in this day and age, but something the USN still trains for. Put one of those at each of the hatches leading inside, as well as positioned to sweep the forecastle and stern, and any boarders attempting to gain entry are going to be a rapidly disintegrating cloud of atoms.
Right now, with the technology we have available to us, I don't think it would be good in a CIWS capacity. 20mm is about the smallest you can get and still have a reasonable chance at knocking down an ASM on final approach (CIWS, especially Phalanx or Goalkeeper, is never relied upon by ship commanders to stop inbounds). The complexities of loading it, as well as attempting to knock down something around the speed of sound with what are glorified lead kamikazes sent out in rapid succession mean that a gatling based weapon is still better than Metal Storm.
Post Reply