NATO ASW Design Challenge
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
Working on it....
Not sure about using Oto Melara 76/62 or Mk 45 gun.
Not sure about using Oto Melara 76/62 or Mk 45 gun.
Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
depends on how flexible you want the ship to be. Experience from Falklands and gulf show that a gun is a flexible item in both surface and anti air role. current trends are 5in is most credible in 70's/80's 76mm thought to be enough.
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
Well, the sketch drawing of Type 25 (the only one I've ever seen) shows no 20-30mm cannon. I find this a little odd but the deckhouse below the after Type 911 could easily accomodate a GAM-BOI, perhaps at a push a Phalanx. Also, the design has no mainmast for the usual ESM arrays etc. I'm not sure, personally, how those after Seawolf launchers on each beam would fare. I'm assuming a fair amount of backblast and I can't say the location right beside the hangar seems sensible to me, but that's whats in the drawing so its there. Also how would a Type 911 director cope with beam attacks, crossing targets going astern are going to be a bugger and having a chopper on the pad will only make things worse. I think perhaps the lesson from Type 25 was that VLS was a good idea.
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
Totally agree Hood. Weapons arcs aren't as straight forward as some people seam to think. Not only is there the issue of back blast but how easy would those launchers be to reload. Which is one of the down sides to VLS. The thought of a Helicopter fully armed on the pad refueling and the SW having to snap shoot doesn't bare thinking about!
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
Actually I am not sure about using WM-25 and STIR-180 to direct Mk.45. If it does not work, then i'll have the Oto-Melara 76/62.rifleman wrote:depends on how flexible you want the ship to be. Experience from Falklands and gulf show that a gun is a flexible item in both surface and anti air role. current trends are 5in is most credible in 70's/80's 76mm thought to be enough.
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
looking good! and nice bridge!
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
After a good long thought, I changed out the Standard for the Sea Sparrow, lighter weapon with less space taken up internally. Edited, and posted later.
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
I still have doubts about the displacement and weight distribution.... and quite a few parts are outdated too
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
The flight deck looks a little out of place with the rest of the ship
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Re: NATO ASW Design Challenge
San Andreas NATO ASW Frigate
Type: ASW with ASuW and limited AAW Capability
Displacement: 4100 Long Ton standard, 4400 Long Ton Full Load
Length: 411 Feet (125.3 meters)
Beam: 52 Feet (16 meters)
Drought: 20 Feet (6.1 meters)
Propulsion: 2-shaft CODOG
2 x General Electric LM2500 Gas Turbines (40 MW Total)
2 MTU 20V956 TB92 Diesel Engines (9 MW total)
Maximum Speed: 30 Knots
Cruise Speed: 18 knots
Range: 6,000 NM (11,000 km) at 18 Knots; 3,600 NM (6,600 km) at 30 kn
Complement: 180-220
Armament: Can be equipped with most American and European Weapon Systems.
1 x Oto-Melara 76mm
1 x Octuple NATO Sea Sparrow Launcher
1 x Phalanx Close-In Weapon System
2 x Quad RGM-84 Harpoon Launcher
2 x Mark 32 Surface Vessel Torpedo Tubes
2 x 40mm Bofors 350PX
2 x 12.7mm M2 Heavy Machine Gun
Electronics and Counter Measures:
1 x Decca Surface Search Radar
1 x WM-25 Surface Search & Fire Control Radar
1 x STIR-180 Illuminator
1 x LW-08 Long Range 2D Air Search Radar
2 x MK 36 Super Rapid Blooming Offboard Chaff
2 x AN/SLQ-32(V)2 Electronic Warfare Suite
Armor: Kevlar Armor installed in Critical Areas
Aircraft: 1 × SH-2 Seasprite/ SH-60 Seahawk
-EDITED, CKECK PAGE NINE-
P.S: I know the weapon suite makes it look like the Kortenaer Class
AAW Version Work In Progress!
Type: ASW with ASuW and limited AAW Capability
Displacement: 4100 Long Ton standard, 4400 Long Ton Full Load
Length: 411 Feet (125.3 meters)
Beam: 52 Feet (16 meters)
Drought: 20 Feet (6.1 meters)
Propulsion: 2-shaft CODOG
2 x General Electric LM2500 Gas Turbines (40 MW Total)
2 MTU 20V956 TB92 Diesel Engines (9 MW total)
Maximum Speed: 30 Knots
Cruise Speed: 18 knots
Range: 6,000 NM (11,000 km) at 18 Knots; 3,600 NM (6,600 km) at 30 kn
Complement: 180-220
Armament: Can be equipped with most American and European Weapon Systems.
1 x Oto-Melara 76mm
1 x Octuple NATO Sea Sparrow Launcher
1 x Phalanx Close-In Weapon System
2 x Quad RGM-84 Harpoon Launcher
2 x Mark 32 Surface Vessel Torpedo Tubes
2 x 40mm Bofors 350PX
2 x 12.7mm M2 Heavy Machine Gun
Electronics and Counter Measures:
1 x Decca Surface Search Radar
1 x WM-25 Surface Search & Fire Control Radar
1 x STIR-180 Illuminator
1 x LW-08 Long Range 2D Air Search Radar
2 x MK 36 Super Rapid Blooming Offboard Chaff
2 x AN/SLQ-32(V)2 Electronic Warfare Suite
Armor: Kevlar Armor installed in Critical Areas
Aircraft: 1 × SH-2 Seasprite/ SH-60 Seahawk
-EDITED, CKECK PAGE NINE-
P.S: I know the weapon suite makes it look like the Kortenaer Class
AAW Version Work In Progress!
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