Small Ships
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Re: Small Ships
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No, as said, the doors needed work, but "THAT's the way to draw the door" suggests that is the only allowed way.
As for the skeg, while your alternatives no longer have 2 double black pixels, both of them suggest a skeg of a different angle then the one drawn. Accuracy sometimes trumps a few black pixels in my book.
I did not look at the reference, so I ignored comments on that: I purely commented on how making the shape of said opbjects would alter their shape from what they are now (I have not checked with refs so I have no opinion on if they are accurate now) but just saying that it is not impossible to draw these as such. Especially the mast top which you suggested to use greys to avoid black blobs, has no issues at all in my book.
@Albert, looking forward to the updated version of this drawing and any future drawings, they show promise
No, as said, the doors needed work, but "THAT's the way to draw the door" suggests that is the only allowed way.
As for the skeg, while your alternatives no longer have 2 double black pixels, both of them suggest a skeg of a different angle then the one drawn. Accuracy sometimes trumps a few black pixels in my book.
I did not look at the reference, so I ignored comments on that: I purely commented on how making the shape of said opbjects would alter their shape from what they are now (I have not checked with refs so I have no opinion on if they are accurate now) but just saying that it is not impossible to draw these as such. Especially the mast top which you suggested to use greys to avoid black blobs, has no issues at all in my book.
@Albert, looking forward to the updated version of this drawing and any future drawings, they show promise
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Re: Small Ships
A fish tug with an interesting history.
Built in 1937 in Manitowoc, WI as the fish tug Albert J, the vesel Barney Devine was purchased by the Wisconsin Conservation Department in 1940 for use as fishery enforcement and research vessel on southern Lake Michigan. The ship's name was changed in the following year after the late chief warden of the same name. Sometime after the Conservation Department was reorganized into the Department of Natural Resources, the original Kahlenberg oil engine was replaced with a Cummins diesel powerplant in 1972, and the pilothouse was reconstructed at the same time. In 2012, the DNR took delivery of a new vessel, Coregonus to replace the 75 year old Barney Devine, which was sold at auction to Halvorson Fisheries of Cornucopia, WI on Lake Superior. As near as I can tell, she's still hauling whitefish and lake trout out of Superior.
Built in 1937 in Manitowoc, WI as the fish tug Albert J, the vesel Barney Devine was purchased by the Wisconsin Conservation Department in 1940 for use as fishery enforcement and research vessel on southern Lake Michigan. The ship's name was changed in the following year after the late chief warden of the same name. Sometime after the Conservation Department was reorganized into the Department of Natural Resources, the original Kahlenberg oil engine was replaced with a Cummins diesel powerplant in 1972, and the pilothouse was reconstructed at the same time. In 2012, the DNR took delivery of a new vessel, Coregonus to replace the 75 year old Barney Devine, which was sold at auction to Halvorson Fisheries of Cornucopia, WI on Lake Superior. As near as I can tell, she's still hauling whitefish and lake trout out of Superior.
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RV Imor is a catamaran vessel built by Damen Gdynia shipyard and Crist sp. z o.o. and launched in 2005 for the purpose of survey and research works in littoral zones for Instytut Morski (Maritime Institute - hence the name - which is a R&D establishment of the Ministry of Marine Economy and Inland Navigation) in Gdańsk.
Poland, RV Imor
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My previous work in this thread apparently didn't found anyone's favour. Maybe this one will fare better.
Stefano Türr was a mid-1930s attempt of Regia Marina to build a large (in the 50-ton range, instead of hitherto typical 15-20-ton range) motor torpedo boat (capable of being also used as minelayer and submarine chaser). Differently from these smaller boats, which were classed as "motoscafo armato silurante", new vessel was classed as "mototorpediniera" ("torpediniera" was a designation of large torpedo boats). Ship was laid down in May 1935 at CMA shipyard in Marina-di-Pisa and launched on 9 of May 1936 r.
It's standard displacement was 51,5 t, normal 61,68 t, total length 32 m. It was powered by 4 FIAT V-1616 diesel engines with total power 3000 hp and was armed with 4 450 mm torpedo launchers, 2 Breda 13,2 mm machine guns, 1 FIAT 6,5 mm machnie gun and 2 depth charge launchers.
Although modern-looking, due to large amount of new technologies applied in its construction, it failed to met it's promise. Although it was hoped that it would achieve speeds in range of 40 knots, during trials it never exceeded 34,62 knots, and when fully laden only 32 knots. Main reason for that were engines, as FIAT had no previous experience with making diesels of that size and with such performance envelope. Modified engines were installed in April of 1937, but then, in turn, it suffered from a string of crankshaft breaks, which led to its new modification, which lasted for another year (and next series of trials for several further months).
Only on 9 January 1939 Stefano Türr was officially commissioned into operational service in Regia Marina, as part of 1ª Flottiglia MAS in La Spezia. Unfortunately, it was plagued by further malfunctions of engines, plus the corrosion of the underwater hull made of supposedly-corrosion-resistant alloy. As the vessel was spending more time in repairs than in service, it was finally decided to decommission it, which formally took place on 27 July 1941. By then Regia Marina has already obtained several (captured from Yugoslavia) Lürssen-type large MTB's, which confirmed that basic concept behind such category of vessels was perfectly sound (in fact, was the way to go), but it's execution in form of Stefano Türr was too flawed to bother. Empty hull, with all valuable equipment removed, remained on shore at Spezia arsenal until it was finally scrapped in 1947-1948.
Italy, Stefano Türr
Stefano Türr was a mid-1930s attempt of Regia Marina to build a large (in the 50-ton range, instead of hitherto typical 15-20-ton range) motor torpedo boat (capable of being also used as minelayer and submarine chaser). Differently from these smaller boats, which were classed as "motoscafo armato silurante", new vessel was classed as "mototorpediniera" ("torpediniera" was a designation of large torpedo boats). Ship was laid down in May 1935 at CMA shipyard in Marina-di-Pisa and launched on 9 of May 1936 r.
It's standard displacement was 51,5 t, normal 61,68 t, total length 32 m. It was powered by 4 FIAT V-1616 diesel engines with total power 3000 hp and was armed with 4 450 mm torpedo launchers, 2 Breda 13,2 mm machine guns, 1 FIAT 6,5 mm machnie gun and 2 depth charge launchers.
Although modern-looking, due to large amount of new technologies applied in its construction, it failed to met it's promise. Although it was hoped that it would achieve speeds in range of 40 knots, during trials it never exceeded 34,62 knots, and when fully laden only 32 knots. Main reason for that were engines, as FIAT had no previous experience with making diesels of that size and with such performance envelope. Modified engines were installed in April of 1937, but then, in turn, it suffered from a string of crankshaft breaks, which led to its new modification, which lasted for another year (and next series of trials for several further months).
Only on 9 January 1939 Stefano Türr was officially commissioned into operational service in Regia Marina, as part of 1ª Flottiglia MAS in La Spezia. Unfortunately, it was plagued by further malfunctions of engines, plus the corrosion of the underwater hull made of supposedly-corrosion-resistant alloy. As the vessel was spending more time in repairs than in service, it was finally decided to decommission it, which formally took place on 27 July 1941. By then Regia Marina has already obtained several (captured from Yugoslavia) Lürssen-type large MTB's, which confirmed that basic concept behind such category of vessels was perfectly sound (in fact, was the way to go), but it's execution in form of Stefano Türr was too flawed to bother. Empty hull, with all valuable equipment removed, remained on shore at Spezia arsenal until it was finally scrapped in 1947-1948.
Italy, Stefano Türr
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Re: Small Ships
Great looking drawing of this rather interesting boat!
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2 Great boats Eswube! I can't wait to see more
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+1 on the praise, amazing you found all the openings on the side of the hull.
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Excellent work! Both your last posts are good additions.
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