USN Florida-Class Battleships
Moderator: Community Manager
-
- Posts: 1341
- Joined: January 16th, 2014, 1:02 pm
- Location: Vermont, USA
USN Florida-Class Battleships
The Florida-class battleships of the United States Navy comprised two ships: Florida and Utah. Launched in 1910 and 1909 respectively and commissioned in 1911, they were slightly larger than the preceding Delaware class design but were otherwise very similar. This was the first US battleship class in which all ships received steam turbine engines. In the previous Delaware-class, North Dakota received steam turbine propulsion as an experiment while Delaware retained triple-expansion engines.
Both ships were involved in the 1914 Second Battle of Vera Cruz, deploying their Marine contingents as part of the operation. Following the entrance of the United States into World War I in 1917, both ships were deployed to Europe. Florida was assigned to the British Grand Fleet and based in Scapa Flow; in December 1918 she escorted President Woodrow Wilson to France for the peace negotiations. Utah was assigned to convoy escort duty; she was based in Ireland and was tasked with protecting convoys as they approached the European continent.
Retained under the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, both ships were modernized significantly, with torpedo bulges and oil-fired boilers installed and other improvements made, but were demilitarized under terms of the 1930 London Naval Treaty. Florida was scrapped, Utah converted into first a radio-controlled target ship, then an anti-aircraft gunnery trainer. She served in the latter role until sunk by the Japanese during the attack on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. Her hull, never raised, remains on the bottom of the harbor as a war memorial.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida-class_battleship)
USS Utah (BB-31) 1911
USS Florida (BB-30) 1914
USS Utah (BB-31) 1918
USS Florida (BB-30) 1921
USS Florida (BB-30) 1929
Both ships were involved in the 1914 Second Battle of Vera Cruz, deploying their Marine contingents as part of the operation. Following the entrance of the United States into World War I in 1917, both ships were deployed to Europe. Florida was assigned to the British Grand Fleet and based in Scapa Flow; in December 1918 she escorted President Woodrow Wilson to France for the peace negotiations. Utah was assigned to convoy escort duty; she was based in Ireland and was tasked with protecting convoys as they approached the European continent.
Retained under the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, both ships were modernized significantly, with torpedo bulges and oil-fired boilers installed and other improvements made, but were demilitarized under terms of the 1930 London Naval Treaty. Florida was scrapped, Utah converted into first a radio-controlled target ship, then an anti-aircraft gunnery trainer. She served in the latter role until sunk by the Japanese during the attack on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. Her hull, never raised, remains on the bottom of the harbor as a war memorial.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida-class_battleship)
USS Utah (BB-31) 1911
USS Florida (BB-30) 1914
USS Utah (BB-31) 1918
USS Florida (BB-30) 1921
USS Florida (BB-30) 1929
Last edited by David Latuch on August 23rd, 2018, 3:16 pm, edited 3 times in total.
My Avatar is
French Vice-admiral Louis-René-Madeleine Le Vassor de La Touche, comte de Tréville
The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.
French Vice-admiral Louis-René-Madeleine Le Vassor de La Touche, comte de Tréville
The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.
- Colombamike
- Posts: 1359
- Joined: July 27th, 2010, 6:18 am
- Location: France, Marseille
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
@David Latuch
All your top-views wrong for the sided-casemate gun (visually, the most "worst one" was the much forward mount near the bow )
I'm thinking of having you to redraw all the American battleships between florida & colorado class's (& maybe all 1920s-1930s never were designs....if I have time..., i keep north carolina, south dakota & iowa BB's for Ian (Colosseum ))
I'm thinking
All your top-views wrong for the sided-casemate gun (visually, the most "worst one" was the much forward mount near the bow )
I'm thinking of having you to redraw all the American battleships between florida & colorado class's (& maybe all 1920s-1930s never were designs....if I have time..., i keep north carolina, south dakota & iowa BB's for Ian (Colosseum ))
I'm thinking
-
- Posts: 3908
- Joined: November 17th, 2010, 8:03 am
- Location: Corinth, MS USA
- Contact:
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
I'm thinking before ordering other members around you need to submit several drawings of your own first.Colombamike wrote: ↑August 22nd, 2018, 6:52 pmI'm thinking of having you to redraw all the American battleships between florida & colorado class's (& maybe all 1920s-1930s never were designs....if I have time..., i keep north carolina, south dakota & iowa BB's for Ian (Colosseum ))
I'm thinking
@David:
Excellent work, my friend!
- Bordkanone 75
- Posts: 643
- Joined: October 6th, 2016, 1:46 am
- Location: United States
- Contact:
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
Nice work! Do you intend to show Utah in the form of a anti-aircraft training ship at the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor?
In your dreams. ~ Yae Miko
報園-872 (方義鑑銃)
Patriotic Presentation Number 872, Q-102 (A6M3-32 captured in Buna, New Guinea)
報園-872 (方義鑑銃)
Patriotic Presentation Number 872, Q-102 (A6M3-32 captured in Buna, New Guinea)
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
Fantastic work, David!
and to Mike: Don't tell people to make major changes to their work unless you yourself can do better
Maybe even draw the corrected casemate yourself, to make replacing them on every single US battleship he's done just a little bit easier
and to Mike: Don't tell people to make major changes to their work unless you yourself can do better
Maybe even draw the corrected casemate yourself, to make replacing them on every single US battleship he's done just a little bit easier
"What are they gonna do, fire me?" - Nate "Tic-Tac" McNally, 2016 (Fired 2019)
All my newer stuff is signed as czslworldtour.
All my newer stuff is signed as czslworldtour.
- rundrewrun99
- Posts: 163
- Joined: January 1st, 2017, 10:48 pm
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
Can we all take a moment to admire the size of this man's equipment?Colombamike wrote: ↑August 22nd, 2018, 6:52 pm @David Latuch
All your top-views wrong for the sided-casemate gun (visually, the most "worst one" was the much forward mount near the bow )
I'm thinking of having you to redraw all the American battleships between florida & colorado class's (& maybe all 1920s-1930s never were designs....if I have time..., i keep north carolina, south dakota & iowa BB's for Ian (Colosseum ))
I'm thinking
-
- Posts: 489
- Joined: July 27th, 2010, 1:47 am
- Location: In the study, with the Candlestick
- Contact:
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
We could...but naaah. I got donuts to make.rundrewrun99 wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2018, 1:51 amCan we all take a moment to admire the size of this man's equipment?Colombamike wrote: ↑August 22nd, 2018, 6:52 pm @David Latuch
All your top-views wrong for the sided-casemate gun (visually, the most "worst one" was the much forward mount near the bow )
I'm thinking of having you to redraw all the American battleships between florida & colorado class's (& maybe all 1920s-1930s never were designs....if I have time..., i keep north carolina, south dakota & iowa BB's for Ian (Colosseum ))
I'm thinking
David, excellent work. I hope the aforementioned donuts are that pretty when I am done.
World's Best Okayest Author and Artist
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
A very nice update, good work.
Hood's Worklist
English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
Super-Darings
Never-Were British Aircraft
English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
Super-Darings
Never-Were British Aircraft
-
- Posts: 1341
- Joined: January 16th, 2014, 1:02 pm
- Location: Vermont, USA
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
Okay, so I took Colombamikes critique to heart and added the gun barrels to the 5”/51cal secondary on the plan view and added a few more details, especially in the 1920 and 1929 versions.Colombamike wrote: ↑August 22nd, 2018, 6:52 pm @David Latuch
All your top-views wrong for the sided-casemate gun (visually, the most "worst one" was the much forward mount near the bow )
As for the forward most mounting, examine these links.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... _01148.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... _60568.jpg
My Avatar is
French Vice-admiral Louis-René-Madeleine Le Vassor de La Touche, comte de Tréville
The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.
French Vice-admiral Louis-René-Madeleine Le Vassor de La Touche, comte de Tréville
The original spelling of my last name is: LaTouche.
Re: USN Florida-Class Battleships
By all accounts you aren't a very successful project manager as all the people you purport to manage draw at their own pace and only draw the ships that interest them.Colombamike wrote: ↑August 22nd, 2018, 6:52 pm @David Latuch
All your top-views wrong for the sided-casemate gun (visually, the most "worst one" was the much forward mount near the bow )
I'm thinking of having you to redraw all the American battleships between florida & colorado class's (& maybe all 1920s-1930s never were designs....if I have time..., i keep north carolina, south dakota & iowa BB's for Ian (Colosseum ))
I'm thinking