Late Victorian Cruiser Challenge

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Re: Late Victorian Cruiser Challenge

#11 Post by waritem »

Charguizard wrote: June 30th, 2017, 2:54 am @waritem, Feyza-i Bahri is both pretty and very convincing, I'm glad you posted her.
Hüdâvendigâr of course looks a lot like the distinctive Matsushimas, but I find her to be very well executed and since she was to be built at an Ottoman yard, what she would've looked like is up to all bets!
The twin 8.3" guns would've likely given her a very serious punch for her size too. The only real gripe I found is that the article says she would've had just 1 shaft, but that would've been odd, wouldn't have it?
I'm glad you like them both.
But most of the credit still goes to the excellent base that garlicdesign gave us.
" we are like dwarves perched on the shoulders of giants" (Bernard of Chartres)

To me also a single shaft would have been odd (but it was an ottoman design.....). Maybe i should try a singleshaft variant.
In addition i'm quite sure i've found contradictory sources that give it twin shaft, althought i can't find it for now.
I'll check it back Home...........

PS: it seems that the two informations are right:
Hudavendigar would get twin shaft when redesigned during construction.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... cruiser.29)
As i've designed its sister ship with different main guns, maybe i should do both..............
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Re: Late Victorian Cruiser Challenge

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Please do the other one too if you feel like it, I for one am interested in seeing what you come up with.
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Re: Late Victorian Cruiser Challenge

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Here is an old image I did way back that you guys might like to take a look at.

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Re: Late Victorian Cruiser Challenge

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-Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but here is a design I did a few weeks ago. She weighs in at 6-7 thousand tons, is armed with a main battery of 2 x 6-inch guns and 8 x 4.7-inch guns, a belt of 3-inches (76mm) and 4 x 18-inch torpedo tubes. Speed is somewhere in the range of 22-24 knots, with a pair of vertical triple expansion engines and coal fired cylindrical boilers serving two shafts.
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Re: Late Victorian Cruiser Challenge

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Charguizard wrote: June 30th, 2017, 11:13 pm Please do the other one too if you feel like it, I for one am interested in seeing what you come up with.
Here is the Hüdâvendigâr as design when laid down in 1892. I will detail the background of my alternate ottoman navy latter (…….one day…….maybe :D ), but for now:

When laid down the Hüdâvendigâr was a very obsolate design with a single screw and a full barque rigging with three masts for auxiliary sail propulsion. Work proceeded very slowly until a major redesign was decided. The ship was finally commissioned in 1896 with military masts, increased steam power and twin screw.
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Re: Late Victorian Cruiser Challenge

#16 Post by reytuerto »

Hi, Regia Marina:

Nice cruiser! Your belt is very intresting for a cruiser of that shape (looks as a protected -by deck armour- cruiser, and its armament is similar, but at 7-6000 tons, is clearly heavier). Once again, it has a "flavor" of an italian protected cruiser before WWI. Cheers.
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#17 Post by reytuerto »

Hi, Waritem:

Aesthetically, at least for me, your single screw version of Hudavendigar looks very well, with very pleasent lines, and with sail mast and only two funnels, it has a definitive vintage scent of the belle epoque. Cheers.
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#18 Post by RegiaMarina1939 »

reytuerto wrote: July 3rd, 2017, 7:10 pm Hi, Regia Marina:

Nice cruiser! Your belt is very intresting for a cruiser of that shape (looks as a protected -by deck armour- cruiser, and its armament is similar, but at 7-6000 tons, is clearly heavier). Once again, it has a "flavor" of an italian protected cruiser before WWI. Cheers.
Thanks, reytuerto! It is based on contemporary cruisers, namely Ottoman ships and the Italian Libia-class cruisers.
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#19 Post by reytuerto »

Do you know? With the armoured belt, an uniform 6 inch battery, some 533 mm torpedo tubes over the flotation line... and turbines with fuel fired boilers, your cruiser can compete with WWI RN era light cruisers.
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#20 Post by RegiaMarina1939 »

reytuerto wrote: July 4th, 2017, 6:35 pm Do you know? With the armoured belt, an uniform 6 inch battery, some 533 mm torpedo tubes over the flotation line... and turbines with fuel fired boilers, your cruiser can compete with WWI RN era light cruisers.
Yes, it very well could, but the design criteria for this challenge prevents such things. Also during the AU scenario this cruiser is from, the admiralty is yet unconvinced of the benefits of turbines and thus opts for vertical triple expansion engines and coal fired boilers, due to ease of maintenance and reliability over early turbines.
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