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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#161 Post by JSB »

Just like to say that I love the maps, really make it easy to understand location etc.
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#162 Post by ezgo394 »

@Odysseus, yes. Almost everything I've done concerning Denton's native people, plants, animals, etc. has been/will be based off of New Zealand (that's why Denton has Maori instead of Australian aboriginals), because it was originally supposed to be somewhere in the Pacific.

@JSB, thanks!
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#163 Post by ezgo394 »

The Huia class of Hydrofoil patrol boats are a class of fast attack patrol boats operated by the Denton Navy. There are 7 ships of the class, with 3 being a part of a subclass (equipped with missiles). They were built by East Haven National Shipyard between 1973 and 1979, with collaboration between Boeing (who built the similar Pegasus class Hydrofoils).
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Specs:
Length: 137.5ft
Beam: 29ft
Draught (Stowed): 7ft
Draught (Deployed): 22.5ft
Draught (Foilborne): 8.5ft
Cruise Speed (Normal): 15kt
Cruise Speed (Foilborne): 49kts
Power: 2x 1800hp Diesel, 1x Gas Turbine, 20,000SHP

Armament:
1x 3" Compact QF cannon
1x 30mm 6-barrel gatling CIWS (for PHG-1 to PHG-4)
or
4x Anti-ship missile (for PHM-5 to PHM-7)

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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#164 Post by acelanceloet »

what is the propulsion while foilborne? I see the waterjets when in displacement mode, but you cannot get water into them when your hull is not in the water (also, I think I miss their intakes)
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#165 Post by Thiel »

acelanceloet wrote:what is the propulsion while foilborne? I see the waterjets when in displacement mode, but you cannot get water into them when your hull is not in the water (also, I think I miss their intakes)
I'm assuming it's the same as the Pegasus class, so there's a ducted prop in the aft hydrofoils IIRC.
I can't see much point in having a hydrofoil without missiles though. You'd be hard pressed to find a hull less suited to patrol work, which is why the USCG dropped them like a hot sack of shit after the navy passed them on.
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#166 Post by KIKE92 »

Great job on that hidrofoil.
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#167 Post by ezgo394 »

@Ace, as Thiel said, it's based on the Pegasus. There's the water jet on the hull for hullborne operation, which is powered by the 1800hp diesel, and foilborne there are two water jets on the foils that are powered by the single 18,000hp turbine.

@Thiel, concerning the missiles... Short answer, I haven't gotten around to drawing them. Long answer, these are primarily a proof-of-concept and while the first 4 were designed with guns only, the last 3 were designed with missiles replacing the rear gun. The later classes of hydrofoils will carry missiles and 2 guns.
Also, as it is stated on the wiki, the Navy retired the Pegasus hydrofoils because it didn't fit the navy's primarily offensive mission vs. coastal patrol. For Denton, I figure they should be relatively suited for the Patrol role and their steadiness in heavy seas.

@Kike92, thanks!
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#168 Post by ezgo394 »

This is that last ship in my current queue. I'm gonna have to figure out what to draw next... All ideas are welcome.

Anyways, this is the final and largest battleship built for Denton, BB-6 Paerau.
I decided to finish this ship, which was originally in a Dunkerque/Richelieu configuration, a couple of weeks ago. I wanted to stick with a main battery forward layout, much like the Nelsons and the French BBs, but I wanted it to be more unique. As I was looking at the North Carolina Class Battleship page, I came across the proposed designs and the first one, Scheme A caught my eye. It was exactly what I was looking for and I decided to stick to the design as close as possible, with the major exception being the secondary armaments. Of course, naturally, I had issues with the SS Report, coming up with multiple revisions and iterations until it finally came out in a balanced form, but I'm pleased with what I ended with.

Undoubtedly, there will be someone who will say to change up the layout, but my intention was to go for uniqueness and to stick with this design as close as I could, so the arrangement is final.
Concept Design for North Carolina Class Battleship
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Several notes:
Laid down in 1935 at Newport News Shipyard, launched in 1937, steamed to Denton for outfitting, and commissioned in late 1938.
There is no aircraft on the drawing, primarily because I have not drawn it yet. It will likely be based on the Curtiss SOC Seagull. The hangar will be in the stern, like the USN battleships. I did measure it out and there should be enough room for 2 aircraft in the hangar, plus 1 or 2 on the catapults.

Since I am still working on the timeline for WWII, I don't know much, but I do a little bit, when BB-6 is heavily damaged by an NSWE torpedo boat and multiple air attacks in 'NSWE's Last Stand.' She listed heavily to starboard, almost capsizing but was able to get the flooding under control, before steaming back to Denton for repairs. She would not participate in the war to it's end.
In the 1950s, her configuration allowed her to be turned into a half-deck aircraft carrier, which was seriously considered by the DN, but was never approved.
DNS Paerau BB-6, Denton Battleship laid down 1935

Displacement:
35,107 t light; 36,801 t standard; 38,346 t normal; 39,582 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
731.00 ft / 702.00 ft x 104.00 ft x 31.00 ft (normal load)
222.81 m / 213.97 m x 31.70 m x 9.45 m

Armament:
9 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1935 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
20 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (10x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1935 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 1.45" / 36.8 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.52lbs / 0.69kg shells, 1935 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 13,634 lbs / 6,184 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 453.00 ft / 138.07 m 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 249.00 ft / 75.90 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
2.00" / 51 mm 470.00 ft / 143.26 m 31.00 ft / 9.45 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 16.0" / 406 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 14.0" / 356 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5.50" / 140 mm, Conning tower: 16.00" / 406 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 100,003 shp / 74,602 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 13,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,781 tons

Complement:
1,369 - 1,781

Cost:
£15.569 million / $62.274 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,704 tons, 4.4 %
Armour: 15,634 tons, 40.8 %
- Belts: 5,059 tons, 13.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,078 tons, 2.8 %
- Armament: 3,479 tons, 9.1 %
- Armour Deck: 5,625 tons, 14.7 %
- Conning Tower: 392 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 2,841 tons, 7.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 14,758 tons, 38.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,239 tons, 8.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 170 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
65,878 lbs / 29,882 Kg = 48.0 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 11.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.05
Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
Roll period: 18.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.593
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.91 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 38.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.00 ft / 9.75 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Quarterdeck (16 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m (24.00 ft / 7.32 m before break)
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 23.33 ft / 7.11 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 184.6 %
Waterplane Area: 55,280 Square feet or 5,136 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 196 lbs/sq ft or 959 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.60
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

-Ethan
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#169 Post by Blackbuck »

Well... You win. That's a mighty purrdy looking battle-wagon.
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Re: Federal Republic of Denton

#170 Post by Krakatoa »

Well done Ethan, that looks really good.
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