Federal Republic of Denton

[Novice]

I would go for the fore mast only,purely from aesthetic view point.
Strange as it may seem the un-balanced look of a fore lattice mast and aft tubular mast appeals to me more than a two lattice masts configuration.

[JSB]

How much cash does Denton hove to spend ?

Assuming weight/space works ether 2 or just the front as it will be clear of more smoke for the better new rangefinder. (IMO)

JSB

[ezgo394]

Thanks for the replies!

@Novice, I agree that having both masts looks rather appealing. I think the front will look better as well.
@JSB, Good question. I have no idea, however, I figure I just need to be frugal with my decisions and I shouldn't have a problem.
Good point with the smoke, as I remember some of the lattice mast failures on American ships were due to corrosive effects of the smoke gases.

So, it's settled. I'll be going with a lattice mast on the front while keeping the tubular mast in the rear BB2 and a forward and possibly an aft mast on BB3.

[ezgo394]

Now, that I've done the U class Zeppelin, it's time for Denton's.


After WWI, Denton was lucky to secure a Zeppelin as war reparations. LZ98 (L52), a U class "Height Climber" Zeppelin, was transferred to Dentonite hands in 1920 and was redesignated ZRE-3 (experimental). It was first used as a design study, influencing two later airships, ZRA-3 and ZRA-4, built in 1922 and 1923. Later, it was used for transport missions to Denton's newly acquired Pacific Territory. ZRE-3 served for 4 years, making 41 Flights, 26 of which were to the Pacific Territory and one to Denton's Antarctic Claim. In it's service with Denton, ZRE-3 covered 173,900 nautical miles before being broken in a high wind while secured to it's Pacific mooring mast. It burned out, destroying the mast along with it and killing 2 men, one in the ship and one on the ground.

Built by: Luftschiffbau Zeppelin in Staaken
First Flight: July 14, 1917
Commissioning: July 14, 1917

Length: 644ft 8in
Diameter: 78ft 5in
Number of Gas cells: 18
Volume: 1,978,000 cu ft
Ceiling: 18000ft
Range: 5600nm
Crew: 13

Note: In real life, LZ98 was actually scuttled by its German crew in June 23, 1919, however for purposes of the Denton AU, this will be an exception.

[ezgo394]

I have updated the first 3 posts after transferring my images from Majhost to Dropbox. Updated Map, Ships, Trucks, and Aircraft images and added their respective SS Reports, specifications and blurbs. Added lots of new information in the Random Factoids section, to post some of the more random pieces of information that don't really have a place in a factbook.

EZ

[Trojan]

Excellent work!

[ezgo394]

Now for something... Ridiculous...

In February, I had posted a challenge to LordBlaidame in his H45 thread, saying that if he worked at it and took it seriously, he could draw it in 4 weeks or less. So, I decided to prove it to him, meaning that, yes, I have drawn an H45-esque battleship. In all, it took me about 3 weeks to finish it. I was in the second week when real-life hit me and the project came to a stop, but I'm tired of this, so I somewhat hastily finished it up. But total time was just under 3 weeks, I think, so I proved my point.
Now as you know, and has been discussed in numerous threads, the original H45 'concept' was to have 8x 80cm Dora guns in 4 turrets as the primary armament. Since this is just silly, I decided to go a different route. Instead, I have 2x turrets with 2x 30" guns each, primarily as a 'specialty weapon.' As the 'primary weapon' I have 4x 16" Quad turrets along the center line, and 4x 16" Double Turrets as wing turrets. This means that the 16" guns will be taking on any threats in the area, while the 30" guns will be working against any larger targets. There is also a complement of 5" Dual Purpose mounts, and a large complement of 40mm Quad ack acks.

Some other things include the addition of a carrier deck wrapping the superstructure. The area in the center contains the elevators going down to a small hangar deck, with space for 20 planes or so. In the rear is an internal dock for MTBs and other small craft.
The large Radar on the mast is a contribution from Apdsmith of NSWE, acquired before the war breaks out. Also, another big thanks to Apdsmith for his encouragement and help in this crazy project.

A couple of other points: The ship was designed as slightly smaller and shallower so that it could traverse Denton's waters, as well as the English Channel and most other places in the world.
For construction of the ship, it would be built in modules in a shipyard in Scipio Bay (which has a deep natural harbor). The modules would then be floated out into the Harbor and joined with the other modules in the water. Once completed, the ship would be floated next to the deepest dock and outfitting would be completed.

So, uhh.. Yeah. Here it is:


Mammut, Denton Battleship laid down 1941

Displacement:
437,276 t light; 459,666 t standard; 501,145 t normal; 534,328 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
1,887.00 ft / 1,837.00 ft x 263.00 ft x 53.00 ft (normal load)
575.16 m / 559.92 m x 80.16 m x 16.15 m

Armament:
4 - 30.00" / 762 mm guns (2x2 guns), 13,500.00lbs / 6,123.50kg shells, 1941 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
16 - 16.00" / 406 mm guns (4x4 guns), 2,048.00lbs / 928.96kg shells, 1941 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 16.00" / 406 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,048.00lbs / 928.96kg shells, 1941 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
60 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (30x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1941 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, evenly spread
180 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (45x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1941 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 107,253 lbs / 48,649 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 18.0" / 457 mm 1,090.00 ft / 332.23 m 35.00 ft / 10.67 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 747.00 ft / 227.69 m 35.00 ft / 10.67 m
Upper: 12.0" / 305 mm 1,090.00 ft / 332.23 m 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
4.00" / 102 mm 1,090.00 ft / 332.23 m 45.00 ft / 13.72 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 30.0" / 762 mm 24.0" / 610 mm 24.0" / 610 mm
2nd: 16.0" / 406 mm 14.0" / 356 mm 14.0" / 356 mm
3rd: 16.0" / 406 mm 14.0" / 356 mm 14.0" / 356 mm
4th: 5.00" / 127 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
5th: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -

- Armour deck: 16.00" / 406 mm, Conning tower: 30.00" / 762 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 8 shafts, 475,909 shp / 355,028 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 30,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 74,663 tons

Complement:
9,416 - 12,242

Cost:
£175.113 million / $700.451 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 13,407 tons, 2.7 %
Armour: 213,472 tons, 42.6 %
- Belts: 50,809 tons, 10.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 7,259 tons, 1.4 %
- Armament: 38,233 tons, 7.6 %
- Armour Deck: 113,092 tons, 22.6 %
- Conning Tower: 4,078 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 12,577 tons, 2.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 195,821 tons, 39.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 63,869 tons, 12.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,000 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2,079,747 lbs / 943,357 Kg = 154.1 x 30.0 " / 762 mm shells or 1,058.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 33.1 ft / 10.1 m
Roll period: 19.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 83 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.65

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.685
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.98 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 42.86 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 29 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 45.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 50.00 ft / 15.24 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 50.00 ft / 15.24 m (60.00 ft / 18.29 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 60.00 ft / 18.29 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 50.00 ft / 15.24 m (60.00 ft / 18.29 m before break)
- Stern: 50.00 ft / 15.24 m
- Average freeboard: 56.50 ft / 17.22 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 34.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 463.7 %
Waterplane Area: 382,067 Square feet or 35,495 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 404 lbs/sq ft or 1,972 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.01
- Longitudinal: 1.06
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Call me crazy, but this was kinda fun. Enjoy!

[apdsmith]

This was fun to help with too! Although "egging each other on" may have been a better description of the process

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[eltf177]

Over a thousand torpedoes to sink? Just...wow...

[Krakatoa]

One grenade in the right place would do the job. With that big a crew, sabotage would be the best bet.