The Winans' Cigar Ships

[Colombamike]

A strange but very interesting (warships/subs design) thread, good drawings
If these designs seem very strange today, during the 1850s-1890s era they (privates attemps) allowed to make very large (design) advances !

[ONI-Defense]

Eswube, does that book mention the hinged ship Connector or the SS Ernest Bazin roller ship by any chance?

Thiel, I wonder if the barge you are thinking of was one of the whaleback barges, Detroit had an assortment of cargo ships and barges that used that odd hull design, in fact there was even a ferry that used it.

[Thiel]

Those are the ones. Quite an intereting design.

[ussnimitz1968]

Honestly they look a little ugly!

[eltf177]

I've never heard of these, thanks for posting these drawings and information.

They remind me of the Confederate semi-submersible ironclad torpedo boat "David".

[ONI-Defense]

St. Julien Ravenel and David Ebaugh actually used the cigar ships designed by the Winans' as a basis for the CSS David.

I really enjoy researching and drawing some of the odd and obscure designs of the 1800's, it's amazing what they experimented with back then, even if some ideas were failures or met limited success they are still very intriguing.

[eswube]

@ONI-Defense
It does mention them. Actually the whaleback barges are mentioned too.

(I can make a list of what's mentioned there - at least those with pictures, but it would take some time)

[ONI-Defense]

You don't have to but I do appreciate the offer.

I might see if the English copy is available on my tablet though.

[Rodondo]

St. Julien Ravenel and David Ebaugh actually used the cigar ships designed by the Winans' as a basis for the CSS David.

I really enjoy researching and drawing some of the odd and obscure designs of the 1800's, it's amazing what they experimented with back then, even if some ideas were failures or met limited success they are still very intriguing.

Heard of the turret deck ship?

[ONI-Defense]

Not until now. A really strange and cool design.