I felt like starting a thread for all my personal designs... it's much easier than comming up with flashy titles for each and every one of my new threads.
Either way, this is a thread I'll just use to post new PDs as I make them. It will include different ships of different types and contexts. No red thread, no consistancy.
So without further ado, here's my first drawing of this thread. Greatly inspired by Maomatics amazing drawing of the Scharnhorst class, this more or less a down-sized Scharnhorst class ship. Ironically the turrets are more based of French turrets, but that's beside the point(If I'm rambling it's because it's late and I've just had two hours of dancing practice)(What the bleedin' zog happened to "without further ado"? Damnit, KHT).
1936 Small Battlecruiser Study, KHT Projects Battlecruiser laid down 1936
Displacement:
18 247 t light; 19 035 t standard; 20 389 t normal; 21 472 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(735,05 ft / 718,50 ft) x 74,80 ft x (23,46 / 24,45 ft)
(224,04 m / 219,00 m) x 22,80 m x (7,15 / 7,45 m)
Armament:
9 - 9,45" / 240 mm 53,0 cal guns - 452,12lbs / 205,08kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1936 Model
3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 5,31" / 135 mm 46,0 cal guns - 77,38lbs / 35,10kg shells, 185 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1936 Model
4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
14 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck centre
1 raised mount
6 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,68lbs / 0,76kg shells, 1 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
2 x Single mounts layout not set
2 double raised mounts
9 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
7 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
1 x Twin mount on centreline amidships (forward deck)
1 double raised mount
Weight of broadside 5 134 lbs / 2 329 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,48" / 190 mm 548,23 ft / 167,10 m 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 1,97" / 50 mm 567,59 ft / 173,00 m 4,10 ft / 1,25 m
Main Belt covers 117 % of normal length
Main Belt inclined 10,00 degrees (positive = in)
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
1,77" / 45 mm 548,23 ft / 167,10 m 14,11 ft / 4,30 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 53,81 ft / 16,40 m
- Hull void:
0,00" / 0 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8,86" / 225 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 7,09" / 180 mm
2nd: 2,36" / 60 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,77" / 45 mm
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Box over machinery & magazines:
4,13" / 105 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 5,91" / 150 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 133 881 shp / 99 875 Kw = 32,50 kts
Range 7 000nm at 15,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 437 tons
Complement:
853 - 1 109
Cost:
£8,938 million / $35,753 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 561 tons, 7,7 %
- Guns: 1 561 tons, 7,7 %
Armour: 5 681 tons, 27,9 %
- Belts: 2 055 tons, 10,1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 507 tons, 2,5 %
- Armament: 955 tons, 4,7 %
- Armour Deck: 2 069 tons, 10,1 %
- Conning Tower: 95 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 3 756 tons, 18,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 048 tons, 34,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 142 tons, 10,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 1,0 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- Hull void weights: 40 tons
- Hull above water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 40 tons
- Above deck: 40 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
27 672 lbs / 12 552 Kg = 65,6 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 3,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,2 m
Roll period: 15,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,60
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,566 / 0,572
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,61 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,80 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,50 degrees
Stern overhang: 4,59 ft / 1,40 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 30,35 ft / 9,25 m, 23,46 ft / 7,15 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 23,46 ft / 7,15 m, 21,49 ft / 6,55 m
- Aft deck: 35,00 %, 21,49 ft / 6,55 m, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m, 19,52 ft / 5,95 m
- Average freeboard: 22,46 ft / 6,85 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 117,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 185,4 %
Waterplane Area: 38 076 Square feet or 3 537 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 138 lbs/sq ft or 674 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,12
- Overall: 1,00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Yes, I'm aware the 135mm turrets are rather anachronistic. I liked them though, and since whatever nation made this clearly haven't got adequate DP guns, it makes(some) sence to add a middle caliber to deal with pesky torpedo attacks.
I like the 240mm gun for a cruiser killer. It's usually my first hand choice for these kinds of designs.
Um... yeah. I felt she's neatly balanced(faster is always nice, but that would force me to lessen the armour, and I like my cruiser killers capable to taking a punch(and flinging back a heavier one without having recieved a broken nose for the trouble). I hope you like it as well.
PS. Please ignore the faulty number of AA guns in the drawing compared to the Springsharp report. I only discovered that I'd missed that as I was about to post, and I really don't feel like fixing it right now(I refer to the afforementioned tiredness), and posting this some other time after having written this post feels... very non-tempting. Consider this drawing a WIP in the AA gunnery department.
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Very pretty KHT apart form the possibly unintentional retention of the deck level guide aft of the bridge. You are certainly right in saying she looks balanced, the 240mm mounts work well
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Very nice!
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i take the doors aft of the firecontroll tower are just in placeholder situation?
otherwise this is neat, really neat drawing.
otherwise this is neat, really neat drawing.
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Thanks all!
Yes, the deck level guide was unintetional, and has been fixed.
Yes, the deck level guide was unintetional, and has been fixed.
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She looks really nice to me, certainly a good counter for the pocket battleships. I would personally have stuck with single turrets fore and aft, added an additional amidships DP gun and use any leftover displacement for either improved protection or speed. Sure she wouldn't have quite the same striking power, but she'd perhaps still make a good vessel.
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Thank you!
I feel the trade-off in firepower would not be really worth it. Increased secondaries would mostly be cramped and suffer from poor firing angles, and only six main rifles of such a "small" caliber for a ship this size would feel quite wasteful. I also think the armour and speed are fully satisfactory, and increasing either at the cost of firepower is simply not motivated enough. But it's an interesting idea, nonetheless.
I've changed a few things in the SS report, having corrected some things I noticed were off.
I feel the trade-off in firepower would not be really worth it. Increased secondaries would mostly be cramped and suffer from poor firing angles, and only six main rifles of such a "small" caliber for a ship this size would feel quite wasteful. I also think the armour and speed are fully satisfactory, and increasing either at the cost of firepower is simply not motivated enough. But it's an interesting idea, nonetheless.
I've changed a few things in the SS report, having corrected some things I noticed were off.
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Well if you were to go with just twin main turrets you could potentially upgrade the weapons to battleship caliber if circumstances ever required it, thus enabling them to be converted like the Mogamis from their as built/treaty compliant selves to more capable/powerful ships in wartime.
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A very nice looking design, I'm picking up slight Italian/ Soviet overtones in the style of the superstructure.
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